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Gothic Chess Live, the 'beta site', is now up and running. http://www.GothicChessLive.com is the website. Check your emails for the password mailed to you. Hope to see you there.
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I just read through some of the comments on here about ChessV and Gothic Chess. Some were not 100% on the mark. First of all, ChessV was given a one-year Gothic Chess license from November 2004 to November 2005. ChessV played in the first, bi-annual Gothic Chess Computer World Championship. You can read more about this on chessville here: http://www.chessville.com/GothicChess/ComputerWorldChampionships.htm There was also some discussion about the graphic which was displayed by the ChessV engine. Greg is confusing two issues. I did contact him about something regarding Gothic Chess, but it it was not the item he mentioned. After his license expires and is not renewed, the subsequent versions of ChessV could not contain a Gothic Chess setup, and that is all. I also contacted somebody about an image shown on Wikkepedia under Gothic Chess. It was ORIGINALLY one I had drawn and is widely in use. The one that replaced it was a ChessV board's image of Gothic Chess. Again, I believe the sands of time have led to Greg confusing issues. I never said what was represented by him or others.
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Actually, there is a song they wrote called 'Who's Behind The Door' that contains possibly the most curt, and most thought-provoking lyric ever written: 'Looking out to the stars, think about what you are.' And if you do think about it, it is rather profound.
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I am not sure where to put this. My bookmark for the Gothic Chess comment areas points to dead space. Anyway, here goes: ============= The 2005 Gothic Chess Computer World Championship will be held online this year at the http://www.GothicChessLive.com website. Everyone is invited to watch, and if you have written a Gothic Chess program, participation is free! We have one candidate from Iran this year, so we can neither charge an entrance fee nor award any prize money in case this person enters and/or wins (USA citizens cannot transaction any money with Cuba, Iran, and a few other countries.) All participants will be mentioned in an article appearing in the June 2006 issue of the International Computer Games Association Journal. The 2004 event was reported on at the Chessville.com website: http://www.chessville.com/GothicChess/ComputerWorldChampionships.htm For rules and registration, as well as playing times and login information, visit: http://s13.invisionfree.com/Gothic_Chess_Forum/index.php?act=SC&c=5 Come watch the best programs play for the title of the world's best!
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Gothic Chess Live Tournament $300 First prize, $200 second prize, $100 third prize, $50 fourth prize FREE TO ENTER More details at: http://z13.invisionfree.com/Gothic_Chess_Forum/index.php?showtopic=270
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Here is a link to a page with some of the more interesting endgame database positions that have been 'mined' so far. The reason Gothic Vortex is so strong in the endgame is that these positions, when encountered during the search, are fed back down the game tree. http://www.gothicchess.com/javascript_endings.html So, Vortex can see that 'Mate in 268' position from a distance if it is playing in a Queen + Pawn endgame. In the case with SMIRF, it saw a very long win for 2 pawns over a Knight, even when the material on the board was 6 pawns for black and 1 Knight + 3 pawns for white.
Staff, On this page of your website: http://www.chessvariants.org/link2.dir/gothic_vortex.html Could you please change the link: http://www.gothicchess.org/gv_release.html to: http://www.gothicchess.com/gv_release.html And as a general note: Our site is on '.com' now and now '.org' Thanks.
Here are some links for GothicChessLive: Ratings: http://www.gothicchesslive.com/players-games.php Logins: http://www.gothicchesslive.com/fullplayerlog.php All Games: http://www.gothicchesslive.com/all-players-games.php
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Gothic Vortex defeats the SMIRF engine, 6-0. http://www.gothicchesslive.com/javascript/game.php?gameid=1600 [Event 'Gothic Chess match'] [Site 'http://www.GothicChessLive.com'] [Date '2006.08.27'] [Time '14:20:58'] [Control 'G/30 + 15'] [Round '1'] [White 'SMIRF MS-163g (Beta)'] [Black 'Gothic Vortex 1.4.1 e'] [Result '0-1'] [SetUp '1'] [FEN 'rnbqckabnr/pppppppppp/10/10/10/10/PPPPPPPPPP/RNBQCKABNR w KQkq - 0 1'] 1.g3 g6 2.Nh3 d5 3.Nc3 c6 4.d4 Nh6 5.Bf4 Na6 6.a4 e5 7.dxe5 Bxe5 8.Bxe5 Cxe5 9.e4 d4 10.Ne2 Bxh3+ 11.Axh3 Ng4 12.Kg1 Ah6 13.Nxd4 Ni5 14.Af4 Axf4 15.gxf4 Cd7 16.Nxc6 bxc6 17.j4 Cxd1 18.Rxd1 Qh4 19.jxi5 Qxf4 20.Cf3 Qg4+ 21.Kf1 O-O 22.h3 Qh5 23.Cc3 i6 24.Rd6 Nb4 25.Cc4 Rab8 26.c3 Na2 27.Rxc6 Nc1 28.Cd2 Rhd8 29.Rd6 Rxd6 30.Cxd6 Qe2+ 31.Kg1 Qe1+ 32.Kg2 Rf8 33.i3 Ne2 34.Cd7 Nf4+ 35.Kf3 Ne6 36.Cf6 Ng5+ 37.Kg2 Nxe4 38.Cf3 Qe2 39.Cf4 Qc2 40.Rj4 f5 41.Kg1 g5 42.Cf3 Rf6 43.Ch2 Qxb2 44.Bxe4 fxe4 45.Cg4 Qc1+ 46.Kh2 Rf8 47.Cxe4 Qf1 48.f4 Rb8 49.Cd2 Qc1 50.Cf3 Rb2+ 51.Kg3 Qi1+ 52.Kg4 Rg2+ 53.Kf5 Qb1+ 54.Ke5 Re2+ 55.Kd6 Qb6+ 56.Kd5 Qb7+ 57.Kc4 Qc6+ 58.Kd4 Qxf3 59.Rg4 Rd2+ 60.Ke5 Qe3+ 61.Kf5 Qc5+ 62.Kf6 Rd6+ 63.Kg7 Qc7+ 64.Kg8 Rd8# 0-1 http://www.gothicchesslive.com/javascript/game.php?gameid=1602 [Event 'Gothic Chess match'] [Site 'http://www.GothicChessLive.com'] [Date '2006.08.27'] [Time '15:54:32'] [Control 'G/60 + 15'] [Round '2'] [White 'Gothic Vortex 1.4.1 e'] [Black 'SMIRF MS-163g (Beta)'] [Result '1-0'] [SetUp '1'] [FEN 'rnbqckabnr/pppppppppp/10/10/10/10/PPPPPPPPPP/RNBQCKABNR w KQkq - 0 1'] 1.c4 g6 2.Nh3 Nh6 3.i3 c5 4.Nc3 d6 5.Bi2 Bxc3 6.dxc3 Nc6 7.Bf4 f6 8.b3 Af7 9.Qc2 O-O 10.Bj3 e5 11.Bd2 Be6 12.Ai2 a6 13.O-O b5 14.cxb5 axb5 15.Qe4 d5 16.Qj4 d4 17.Ah4 Cd6 18.Cd1 Ra7 19.Cg1 c4 20.Ni5 Rg8 21.Nxj7 Nxj7 22.Bxi7 Kxi7 23.Aj6+ Kj8 24.Axh7+ Ki7 25.Aj5+ Kh8 26.Ai6+ Ki7 27.Qxj7+ Kh6 28.Qh7+ Ki5 29.Ah4# 1-0 http://www.gothicchesslive.com/javascript/game.php?gameid=1604 [Event 'Gothic Chess match'] [Site 'http://www.GothicChessLive.com'] [Date '2006.08.28'] [Time '18:03:26'] [Control 'G/30 + 15'] [Round '3'] [White 'Gothic Vortex 1.4.1 e'] [Black 'SMIRF MS-163h (Beta)'] [Result '1-0'] [SetUp '1'] [FEN 'rnbqckabnr/pppppppppp/10/10/10/10/PPPPPPPPPP/RNBQCKABNR w KQkq - 0 1'] 1.d4 Nh6 2.Nh3 g6 3.g3 d6 4.Nc3 Na6 5.Bf4 c5 6.dxc5 Bxc3 7.bxc3 Nxc5 8.Bd5 Cc7 9.Qd2 Be6 10.c4 Bxd5 11.cxd5 Ne4 12.Qd3 Af6 13.c4 Cc5 14.Qe3 O-O 15.f3 Cxc4 16.Qd3 Cb4 17.fxe4 Axe4 18.Qxe4 Cxe4 19.Af3 Ca4 20.O-O Rc8 21.Cg2 Qf8 22.Ci3 Ng8 23.Ni5 h5 24.Ah4 Rh6 25.Bxh6 Qxh6 26.Aj5 Cc3 27.Raf1 j6 28.Rxf7 jxi5 29.Cxi5 Qxi5 30.Ah7+ Kj7 31.Axi5+ Ki8 32.Axg6+ Kj7 33.Axh5+ Kj8 34.Ai6+ Ki8 35.Ah7+ Kj7 36.Rf4 i5 37.Axi5+ Ki6 38.Aj4+ 1-0 http://www.gothicchesslive.com/javascript/game.php?gameid=1607 [Event 'Gothic Chess match'] [Site 'http://www.GothicChessLive.com'] [Date '2006.08.30'] [Time '14:43:41'] [Control 'G/60 + 20'] [White 'SMIRF MS-163h (Beta)'] [Black 'Gothic Vortex 1.4.1 e'] [Result '0-1'] [SetUp '1'] [FEN 'rnbqckabnr/pppppppppp/10/10/10/10/PPPPPPPPPP/RNBQCKABNR w KQkq - 0 1'] 1.Nh3 d6 2.g3 Nc6 3.Bxc6 bxc6 4.c4 h6 5.Nc3 g5 6.d4 Aj5 7.f3 g4 8.fxg4 Bxg4 9.j4 Qd7 10.Rj3 Bh5 11.Rj1 Bi4 12.Kg2 Nj6 13.Bf4 e5 14.dxe5 Bxe5 15.Cf3 Bxf4 16.Cxf4 Nh5 17.Cf3 O-O 18.Qd3+ Ah7 19.Qd4 Nj6 20.Af2 Ce6 21.Qd2 Ag5 22.Qd3+ Cg6 23.Rad1 Rh7 24.Cd4 Nh5 25.Qf3 Ce5 26.Kh1 Bxh3 27.Axh3 Axh3 28.ixh3 Cxf3 29.exf3 Nxg3+ 30.hxg3 Qxh3+ 31.Ki1 Qxg3+ 32.Ki2 Qf2+ 33.Kj3 Qxb2 34.Ce2 Qb4 35.Rd4 Qc5 36.Rh1 Rg8 37.Ri4 i6 38.Ce4 Qf5 39.Rf4 Qg6+ 40.Ki2 f5 41.Ce3 h5 42.Nd1 h4 43.Rfxh4 Rgh8 44.Rxh7 Qi4+ 45.Kj2 Qxj4+ 46.Ki2 Qi4+ 47.Kj2 Rxh7 48.Rxh7 Qj4+ 49.Ki2 Qi5+ 50.Kh1 Kxh7 51.Ce7+ Qg7 52.Cxf5 Qh8 53.Ch4+ Kg7 54.Cxh8 Kxh8 55.Ne3 Kh7 56.Nf5 j5 57.Ne7 d5 58.cxd5 c5 59.Ki2 c4 60.Nc6 c3 61.Nd4 i5 62.f4 Kh6 63.Kj3 Kh5 64.Ki3 Kg4 65.Kj2 a6 66.a4 Kh4 67.Nf5+ Kh5 68.Nd4 i4 69.Ki3 Ki5 70.Kh2 j4 71.f5 Kh6 72.a5 Kg5 73.Kh1 Kf6 74.Ne2 c2 75.Ki1 Ke5 76.Kh1 Kxd5 77.f6 Kd6 78.Kh2 c5 79.f7 Ke7 80.f8=C Kxf8 81.Nc1 Ke7 82.Ki2 Kd6 83.Kh1 Kd5 84.Nd3 Kd4 85.Nc1 Kc3 86.Kg2 c4 87.Kh2 Kb2 88.Ne2 c1=C 89.Nxc1 Kxc1 90.Kg3 c3 91.Kh4 c2 92.Kxi4 Kb2 93.Kxj4 Kc3 94.Ki5 Kd3 95.Kh6 Ke4 96.Kg7 Kf5 97.Kf7 c1=Q 98.Kg7 Qi7+ 99.Kf8 Kf6 100.Kg8 Qg7# http://www.gothicchesslive.com/javascript/game.php?gameid=1609 [Event 'Gothic Chess game'] [Site 'http://www.GothicChessLive.com'] [Date '2006.09.01'] [Time '18:16:37'] [Control 'G/45 + 20'] [White 'SMIRF MS-163i (Beta)'] [Black 'Gothic Vortex 1.4.1 f'] [Result '0-1'] [SetUp '1'] [FEN 'rnbqckabnr/pppppppppp/10/10/10/10/PPPPPPPPPP/RNBQCKABNR w KQkq - 0 1'] 1.Nh3 g6 2.c3 d5 3.d3 Nh6 4.g3 Nc6 5.Na3 Bf5 6.c4 dxc4 7.Bxc6 bxc6 8.Nxc4 Bd4 9.Qa4 Qd7 10.Qc2 f6 11.Be3 Ae6 12.Bxh6+ ixh6 13.Kg2 Ri8 14.e3 Rxi2 15.Nf4 Ag5 16.exd4 Ri4 17.h4 Axf4+ 18.gxf4 Bxj1 19.Qe2 Bg4 20.f3 Ri2+ 21.Axi2 Bxi2 22.Kh2 Cg7 23.Cg2 Ci6 24.Ri1 Cj4 25.Kg1 Qxd4+ 26.Ne3 Bh3 27.Cf2 Qxf4 28.Ri3 Qg3+ 29.Kh1 Cxh4 30.Ch2 O-O-O 31.Nf1 Ch5 32.Nxg3 Cxg3+ 33.Ki1 Cg1+ 34.Ch1 Cxe2 35.Rxh3 Rxd3 36.Rxh6 Cg2+ 37.Kj1 Cxb2 38.Rh2 Rd2 39.Rxd2 Cxd2 40.Cxh7 Cf1+ 41.Ki2 Cg1+ 0-1 http://www.gothicchesslive.com/javascript/game.php?gameid=1610 [Event 'Gothic Chess game'] [Site 'http://www.GothicChessLive.com'] [Date '2006.09.02'] [Time '16:32:50'] [Control 'G/30 + 20'] [Round '3'] [White 'Gothic Vortex 1.4.1 f'] [Black 'SMIRF MS-163j (Beta)'] [Result '1-0'] [SetUp '1'] [FEN 'rnbqckabnr/pppppppppp/10/10/10/10/PPPPPPPPPP/RNBQCKABNR w KQkq - 0 1'] 1.d4 Nh6 2.Nh3 Nc6 3.g3 j6 4.Nc3 g6 5.d5 Ne5 6.Be4 f5 7.Bg2 c6 8.Bf4 Nc4 9.Qc1 Qb6 10.Nd1 Bxb2 11.Nxb2 Qxb2 12.Qxb2 Nxb2 13.Af3 Nc4 14.O-O Af6 15.Cd3 Ab2 16.Cxb2 Nxb2 17.Ad2 Ng8 18.Be5 Ri8 19.Ag5 Nf6 20.Bxb2 h6 21.Ai4 Kf7 22.Nf4 Rg8 23.Rhd1 c5 24.d6 e6 25.Aj5 Rg7 26.Ah4 i5 27.Af3 Ng4 28.h3 Nxf2 29.Bxg7 Cxg7 30.Ae5+ Kg8 31.h4 Nxd1 32.Bj5+ Kf8 33.Nxg6+ Cxg6 34.Axg6+ Kg7 35.Ai8+ Kf6 36.Axj6 Kf7 37.Ah5+ Kf8 38.hxi5 hxi5 39.Rxd1 b5 40.Rh1 f4 41.Ag6+ Kg7 42.Ae5+ Kf8 43.Rh8# 1-0
The player on http://www.GothicChessLive.com known as M_TAL has always been a very tough opponent. He is George Tsavadaris from Thessaloniki, Greece. George is not only a 'regular chess' enthusiast, he is a strong 'anti-computer' player, in chess and Gothic Chess. Over the past 3 years, he has given me sample games where he has been able to defeat Gothic Vortex. Today, though a bit rusty, he was finally overwhelemed by Vortex. While I am sure he will be back strong, here is that game, played at G/30 + 15: http://www.gothicchesslive.com/javascript/game.php?gameid=1614 1.Nh3 h6 2.g3 d5 3.d4 g6 4.Nc3 c6 5.Bg2 Nj6 6.f3 Na6 7.g4 Ah7 8.g5 h5 9.Bf4 f6 10.e4 Nc7 11.Qd2 f5 12.exd5 cxd5 13.Af2 Bg7 14.j4 Ne6 15.Ni5 Ai8 16.Be5 Kf7 17.O-O Ni4 18.Ah4 Ch8 19.f4 j6 20.Nj3 i5 21.Af2 ixj4 22.h3 Ci6 23.hxi4 hxi4 24.Nh4 Ci7 25.Bf3 Bi5 26.Ae3 j3 27.Cf1 j5 28.Ni6 j4 29.Rh8 Cj5 30.Rxd8 Nxd8 31.Ch1 Aj6 32.ixj3 Ri8 33.Ag2 Bf8 34.Bh8 Ai5 35.Axi4 Cj7 36.Nxd5 Be6 37.Nc7 Rc8 38.Nxe6 Nxe6 39.Qd3 Ke8 40.Qb5+ Rc6 41.Bxc6+ bxc6 42.Qxc6+ Kf7 43.Re1 Nxf4 44.Qf3 Ag4 45.Qb3+ Ke8 46.Qb5+ Kf7 47.Qb3+ Ke8 48.Qb5+ Kf7 49.Qc4+ Ke8 50.Qc6+ Kf7 51.Rf1 Axi6 52.Axg6+ Kg8 53.Bi7 Rxi7 54.Ch6+ Cxh6 55.Axi7+ Kf7 56.gxh6 Ah4 57.Rf3 Ng6 58.h7 e6 59.Rh3 Bd6+ 60.Qxd6 Ag2+ 61.Kh2 Af1+ 62.Kh1 Axh3 63.Ah6+ Ke8 64.Ag7+ Kf7 65.Qc7+ Ne7 66.h8=C+ Kxg7 67.Qe5# 1-0
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Gothic Chess http://www.GothicChess.com http://www.GothicChessLive.com http://www.gothicchesslive.com/all-players-games.php But I think my opinion is biased :)
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Someone needs to say this. That page is 'too loud' and difficult to navigate. It is rather painful on the eyes. It needs a webmaster.
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