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Treeleaders Chess. Large variant with non-similar armies. (9x10, Cells: 90) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Peter Aronson wrote on Thu, Sep 25, 2003 09:09 PM UTC:Good ★★★★
<u>The Gnu Song</u> is by Flanders & Swann, and can be found here: <p><ul> <li><a href='http://www.poppyfields.net/poppy/songs/gnu.html'>http://www.poppyfields.net/poppy/songs/gnu.html</a> </ul>

Erez Schatz wrote on Fri, Nov 28, 2003 09:10 AM UTC:
Thanks, this is where I found that one :) The Gnu section did give me a
hard time.

Erez Schatz wrote on Sun, Feb 29, 2004 03:17 PM UTC:
A suggestion by Uri Bruck, the Sergeants double-step first move can be either 2 squares forward, or two squares diagonally forward.

David Paulowich wrote on Wed, Aug 25, 2004 11:08 AM UTC:
'Nor am I in the least like that dreadful hearty beast' - Hartebeest, actually. Never misspell the name of a creature with larger horns than you have.

Erez Schatz wrote on Wed, Aug 25, 2004 12:06 PM UTC:
Had I known that choosing that particular song would raise such an uproar...

Charles Gilman wrote on Tue, Sep 7, 2004 08:27 AM UTC:
The Poppyfields version of the song seems to have been written down from listening to it sung, as the lyrics as originally written do indeed have 'Hartebeest'. It also has 'k-now' for 'g-know' and the geographically correct 'Ashton' for 'Aston'! Finally it may be worth noting that 'g-nicest' is a pun on the geological term gneiss.

Erez Schatz wrote on Wed, Sep 8, 2004 07:26 AM UTC:
I'm not really familiar with the original song, to be perfectly honest,
but I appreciate the information.

Apart from my questionable choice of nursery rhymes, how did you like the
game?

Charles Gilman wrote on Wed, Sep 15, 2004 07:51 AM UTC:
As you ask, there is the usual problem with arranging colourbound pieces symmetrically on an odd number of files. There are also a few presentational errors - 'orthogonally and vertically', and the depiction of the Cannon by a symbol usually used for its diagonal counterpart. Sorry that the first comment on the game itself is no negative.

Erez Schatz wrote on Wed, Sep 15, 2004 02:51 PM UTC:
Hardly negative, I finally get some information on how the game is
actually
perceived.

The colourbound pieces were intentionally placed symmetrically, as it
creates an interesting balance, both thematically and technically. The
Vampires are a very strong piece, weakened by the movement stipulation
and
by colourbounding. Placing the Vampires on white and black would give the
two pieces over-dominancy in the game. This also made me decide to keep
the Bishops on same-colour squares. I tried fiddling with a bit
off-conservative ideas, like different armies and a board that is not
nXn,
and it does has its advantages, but also its disadvantages.

As for the presentation, ignoring the typo, the alfaerie pieces are
always
a manner of hit and miss, I chose the diagonal cannon image since that
one
at least resembled a cannon, unlike the others.

Still thanx for the comment, and I hope you enjoyed playing the game.

Erez Schatz wrote on Sat, Sep 25, 2004 10:25 AM UTC:
Typo fixed,

On the same manner, are there any known example of what you referred to
as
the usual problem of colourbound pieces on odd number files? Would be
interesting to see how others tackled this issue.

David Paulowich wrote on Sat, Sep 25, 2004 07:25 PM UTC:

In 1889 Ben Foster wrote a book 'Chancellor Chess.' The game is played on a 9x9 board, with the setup RNBQKCNBR. All the pawns are defended and the Bishops are on both light and dark squares.

In 1983 Carlos Cetina proposed 'The Bishops Conversion Rule', which has its own web page on this site. Briefly, one of your Bishops makes its first move in the game: exactly one square horizontally or vertically.

Two games with 11 columns take a new approach. Mainzer Schach places Bishops on the c-file and d-file, and Knights on the h-file and i-file. R. Wayne Schmittberger's Wildebeest Chess has White Bishops and Black Camels on the c-file and d-file, because the setup reverses the placement of the Black pieces.


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