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Icon Clearinghouse 2. Part two features dozens of animal-based icons.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]

💡📝Bob Greenwade wrote on Sun, Oct 29, 2023 08:04 PM UTC:

I think I have all the animal icons posted here that are currently in my possession, including those I got from Jean-Louis, other than Knight variations (Part 5) and Phoenixes (Part 1).

That doesn't mean the page is ready; it won't be ready until all five parts are ready. I'm just opening this up to critique, especially if someone spots something (other than the above) missing.

💡📝Bob Greenwade wrote on Sun, Oct 29, 2023 10:25 PM UTC:

Here's where I get to wish that converting these small gif/png files to svg was as easy as has been said; I love Jean-Louis's new Gnu, and I'd love to make a full QBRM set from it!

💡📝Bob Greenwade wrote on Wed, Nov 1, 2023 06:43 PM UTC:

I've now added a few that I built from public domain SVG files, to see what people think (of the idea as well as of the icons themselves).

Bn Em wrote on Thu, Nov 2, 2023 01:08 AM UTC:

Methinks you've misassigned the ‘aanca’ graphic: in post‐Betza usage ‘aanca’ almost always refers to what we now call a manticore or rhinoceros — hence the four bishops in the icon; there's a corresponding four‐rook icon for the gryphon you seem to have missed.

Only one move apiece comes to mind for the Bat and the Panda: the former is a root‐65 leaper (8:1 or 7:4) (I'll concede it's mostly limited to Savard and Gilman due to its long leap, and the name is used for a few other pieces, but most of those are games far enough outside the usual (things like Halloween Knight Court and Capt. Spalding) that they almost don't count for this; which basically leaves H.G.'s large games, where it's as much a neologism as Raven is for its piece), whilst the latter is a slip‐rook (much better attested, with apparently only Onitama being an exception there; it's one of the pieces that might merit a Piececlopedia entry imo)

Of the PD images only the whales (particularly the second) and maybe the second ibis appeal to me; the others are either too detailed (a problem shared with some of alfaerie's arthropods, f.ex.) or a bit cartoonish to fit in with the rest

And I really like some of the new Cazaux icons; fsr I'm particularly drawn to the Tapir :‌)

💡📝Bob Greenwade wrote on Thu, Nov 2, 2023 01:43 AM UTC in reply to Bn Em from 01:08 AM:

I'll get to that Panda and fix the Aanca tomorrow, though I'm still not sure that there aren't enough different takes on the Bat to leave it where it is. Even so, that row clearly needs some clearing-out! (I do hint at the possibility of moving the Dragons to the Ubiquitous table.) Jean-Louis also has an "anka" piece in his set that I have yet to cite.

I do have a bunch more PD animal icons to upload. Some are even worse for cartoony looks -- a couple are clearly "kid art," like the "dragon head" -- but many are better, at least it gives a lot of availability. In some cases they're the only things I could find!

I'd support writing out Piececlopedia articles on slip- (and ski- and skip-)pieces. Personally I'm thinking of writing about the Okapi soon.

Oh, and I was quite surprised to find the Tapir; I don't know what Jean-Louis means it for, but I've had it in my "Fifth Circle" collection for months now.

Jean-Louis Cazaux wrote on Thu, Nov 2, 2023 07:26 AM UTC in reply to Bob Greenwade from 01:43 AM:

Please please i beg you not to perpetuate that erroneous usage of Aanca. The Aanca is what Murray called Gryphon, F then R. Betza made a strong mistake. The simplest is that you completely remove this word from your page. Please do not add confusion to confusion.

💡📝Bob Greenwade wrote on Thu, Nov 2, 2023 02:14 PM UTC in reply to Jean-Louis Cazaux from 07:26 AM:

OK, I'll agree with you there, Jean-Louis. Aanca's away. (I don't much like that style of icon anyway.)

Clarification on the Panda/Slip-Rook: that would be W then DD, right? Also, is there an animal for the Slip-Bishop?

💡📝Bob Greenwade wrote on Thu, Nov 2, 2023 03:00 PM UTC:

Well, phoo. I've hit the size limit for this page as well.

It looks like there will have to be a separate Part 6 for just my original creations.

Bn Em wrote on Thu, Nov 2, 2023 11:45 PM UTC:

@Jean‐Louis:

I wasn't necessarily meaning to promote the usage of ‘aanca’ to mean anything nowadays that we have more‐or‐less arrived at a concensus on what to call the Gryphon and Manticore/Rhino. More that that name was already associated with the four‐bishops icon and (presumably due to the very confusion that ‘aanca’ brings) Bob had misinterpreted it.

@Bob:

Indeed, Panda is W then DD. F then AA is called Bear by Gilman (M&B6) but idk if anyone else has taken that on and that name can also, as you've noted, refer to the Squirrel. Though the slip‐bishop seems less popular generally and idk if anyone has an alternative name for it either.

As far as the piececlopedia, first on my list is the Steward. The 4:2 leaper and now the panda are also on my radar, though it may be a little while before I can motivate myself to write even the Steward one :‌)

And fwiw, I'm quite fond of the four‐rooks and four‐bishops Gryphon and Manticore, but in any case they don't really qualify as ‘animal’ pieces so if you do include them there's probably a better choice of page