Comments by CharlesGilman
Good to see someone taking up my Ascii Art diagrams for hex Chess!
Whale Shogi name | Man and Beast name | Japanese name |
---|---|---|
Blue Whale | Coppergeneral | Dosho (Copper General) |
Dolphin | Point | Fuhyo (Foot Soldier) |
Grey Whale | Hunter | |
Humpback | Silvercoward | Old Monkey |
Killer Whale | Chatelaine | Ryuo (Dragon King) |
Narwhal | Snail | |
Porpoise | Wazirfiler | |
White Whale | King | varies between players |
Of the pieces actually used here:
* The Rattlesnake always moves steadily left or right - 'half a file' every two ranks when also moving forward or backward, and alternating between two cells of the rank where the move starts and two cells of the one bordering it along a crooked edge.
* The Nadder is a bit of a surprise. It can encircle a hexagon of two cells, as might perhaps be expected, but it can also move directly along a rank.
Of the pieces only mentioned for possible future variants
* The Ambrook can move far further on this board than on the SerPent one. It moves between back-right and front-left, and between back-left and front-right, like the Bend- and Scarp-orthogonal moves of the Ratlesnake in SerPent Chess.
The issue of Xiang Qi actual strengthens Mohsen's case for not calling the Ferz a 'General', as General is the name generally used for another piece in that game. The Ferz represents a kind of adviser in both games, so why call it something that doesn't mean a kind of adviser? The Shogi analogy doesn't work at all. The names of the King, Rook, and Bishop pieces in European languages are regularly used in the context of FIDE Chess, so it is natural for Europeans to use these names even when playing Shogi - and even devise new European names for the rest of the pieces. My own Chatelaine, Helm, Point, Primate, and Wing are the most comprehensive list of such names. Incidentally one player's King in Shogi is called 'King's general' and the other 'Jewelled general', the latter without specifying a particular kind of jewel. Calling the Ferz a General simply doesn't compare. The Ferz is this context not an piece exotic to players alreadsy familiar with FIDE Chess, bit the precursor of the FIDE Queen. As far as I am aware it was only ever known in Europe either as Ferz or some variant spelling, or by the local names now used by the modern Queen. One small point about real-life bishops: they are certainly not 'Humanistic' in the religious sense, quite the reverse!
Tank Cannon Arrow Sling ---------- -------- ---------- ------ Knight | Accountant Marksman Careerist Carian Camel | Actuary Captain Campaigner Cappadocian Elf | Eliminator Legate Leister LevantineI decided not to bother with Gnu compounds. The basic (oblique leaper) versions are listed in Man and Beast 08: Diverse Directions and oblique-stepper versions of some, including Chinese- and Korean-style Marksmen, are mentioned in Man and Beast 13: Straight and Crooked Moving. I have also submitted an update to Ecumenical Eurasian Ninjachess.
The fact that the Rook has just the one forward direction does not explain the lack of difference between Rook+Bishop and Rook+Knight as both wopuld gain from the non-Rook move. The more likely factors are (a) that adding the Knight move to a Rook with eight adjoining allies allows it to leap out of that space in a way that a Bishop move does not and (b) just adding the Rook move to a Bishop removes its colourbinding, adding it to a Knight rewmoves colourswitching, which is the Knight's property of always moving to the (not just an) other colour. Both compounds - and for that matter Bishop+Knight - can move to squares both of the same colour and of the opposite one. There are other kind of switching - the Silvergeneral is rankswitching (always moves an odd number of ranks), the Fibnif and Mushroom fileswitching (always move an odd number of files), and the Ferz and Camel both. Can everyone see why pieces that are both rankswitching and fileswitching are colourbound?
My first paragraph was a quote from the page itself that I was questioning. I was highlighting what the Rook gains from adding either Bishop or Knight move, and what both the Bishop and the Knight gain from adding the Rook move. Could I also point out that '-boundedness' is not the right term here? Bounded is the past tense of the verb to bound, meaning to jump or leap or hop (in a general sense rather than the specific Chess ones), and as an adjective it means having a boundary so '-boundness' would be more correct - although so is the even briefer '-binding'. There are analogies with other verbs - you can ground an aeroplane and get a grounded aeroplane, but if you grind coffee you get ground coffee - not that I'm offering any.
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In Ecumenical Eurasian Ninjachess I termed the compound of (Chinese) Cannon and (leaping) Knight a Marshhopper, but I can see that if a generic name is to cover different kinds of Knight (as well as Cannon) component that won't do, and no doubt you'd prefer a real word to something derived. Well as you'd have to be a really good shot to fire any kind of gun from a moving horse, how about Marksman? That would still have echoes of the start of Marshal. Now if I could devise real-word names for the Cardi-, Canva-, and Calip-hoppers I could submit an update to EEN - although as my update to Honeycomb Chess has yet to be posted goodness knows when the EEN update would appear!