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Borderline. Without pawns, with only one king, capturing opponent's pieces is omitted. (7x7, Cells: 49) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Ben Reiniger wrote on Mon, Feb 6, 2023 02:20 PM UTC in reply to Gerd Degens from 09:57 AM:

white (blue) can put the king in check on ranks 5-7

I wonder how hard mate will be; you can't get very close to the king while still giving check, so a rook/queen net seems the only way, but with all the other pieces getting in the way...
On the other hand, maybe all the other pieces actually help? A sample mate (preferably one arising from actual play) would be helpful.

In Borderline, capturing pieces is excluded

Oh boy, sorry. Maybe add that all-important bit as the first bulleted Rule so skimmers like me don't miss/forget it from the intro (ugh, and even the short description, maybe it's just me)?


Obento Chess. 12x12 Chess variant with Shogi-style promotions and bent sliding pieces. (12x12, Cells: 144) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Ben Reiniger wrote on Sat, Feb 11, 2023 04:23 PM UTC:

missing description of the pieces


Numeral ChessA game information page
. Numeral Chess requires sharp eyes and promotes deep strategical calculation similar to Go (WeiQi). (17x17, Cells: 289) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Ben Reiniger wrote on Sat, Feb 11, 2023 04:31 PM UTC:

@Fergus, the sections aside from Introduction are empty, yet the display script is not hiding them as usual. Any idea why?

@Eric, I had to fix most of the index information you provided.


Reformed Courier-Spiel. Begnis's attempt to reform the Courier-Spiel proposed by H.C. Albers in 1821. (12x8, Cells: 96) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Ben Reiniger wrote on Sun, Feb 12, 2023 01:49 AM UTC:

The third sentence of the archer's description is incomplete.

I tried to set Begnis as the inventor. That field seems to have populated, but the edit person script appears to still not work. I can try again later if Fergus (or another) doesn't beat me to it.


How to Design and Post Your Own Game. A reference for those who want to post their own games here.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Ben Reiniger wrote on Sun, Feb 12, 2023 04:19 PM UTC in reply to Thomas from 01:55 PM:

Fergus, you were able to see proper sql error messages in the logs before; can you get those to print in the helper function?

I think we use 0 for infinite/indeterminate.


Interactive diagrams. Diagrams that interactively show piece moves.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Ben Reiniger wrote on Sun, Feb 12, 2023 04:23 PM UTC in reply to A. M. DeWitt from 04:17 PM:

P.S. Those empty comments were me trying to insert this comment while I was not logged in, which may be the result of a bug.

Comments from non-(signed-in-)users display empty until an editor approves them, or a certain amount of time passes. They used to display a message to that effect; I'm not sure when or why that changed.

I deleted the copies of this comment.


Line Chess. Members-Only Every pieces move along the board lines, but capture in different ways. Each side has two moves per turn. (5x6, Cells: 50) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]

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MZnumeralchess[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Ben Reiniger wrote on Sun, Feb 12, 2023 11:29 PM UTC:

A Zillions page here needs to have the zrf included (or a url to such, but I think the actual file is beneficial for preservation).


Tags Listing. A listing of the tags used on our pages.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
📝Ben Reiniger wrote on Tue, Feb 14, 2023 11:35 PM UTC in reply to Fergus Duniho from Sat Jan 28 02:49 AM:

Since people keep wanting to use tags for information that is already stored in the database, I have modified the footer script to include categories and board dimensions just above the tags section.

Did any of the folks interested in board size tags still find them useful after this addition, or can we delete them?


📝Ben Reiniger wrote on Tue, Feb 14, 2023 11:38 PM UTC:

@Fergus, the Chess+Compounds link, and adding of that tag, don't work, presumably something has changed with the handling of the +.


Scheherazade. Pieces may combine with other pieces to form combination pieces. (10x10, Cells: 100) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Ben Reiniger wrote on Wed, Feb 15, 2023 12:43 PM UTC in reply to H. G. Muller from 09:03 AM:

Even if you would only allow combinations of two

This seems to be the case, see the references to "basic" pieces as opposed to "queens".

[...] you would still have 6x5 = 30 combination pieces.

Half that, since the order of specification doesn't matter. The article mentions 15 pieces in the values section. (Still a lot of names, granted.)


Tags Listing. A listing of the tags used on our pages.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
📝Ben Reiniger wrote on Wed, Feb 15, 2023 12:49 PM UTC in reply to Jean-Louis Cazaux from 06:39 AM:

But what do these add, now with board size specified and linked at the bottom of pages?


Circular Capa Chess. Play circular chess with added archbishops and chancellors on a 5x16 round board.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Ben Reiniger wrote on Thu, Feb 16, 2023 09:24 PM UTC in reply to Kevin Pacey from 08:57 PM:

@Kevin, you did indeed upload the image; all that remained was to edit the page's content to update the IMG SRC tag to use the new URL (visible in the file manager where you uploaded it).


Borderline. Without pawns, with only one king, capturing opponent's pieces is omitted. (7x7, Cells: 49) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Ben Reiniger wrote on Tue, Feb 21, 2023 01:30 PM UTC in reply to Fergus Duniho from 01:21 PM:

@Fergus, the third rule means the king isn't under attack from the starting position.


Ben Reiniger wrote on Tue, Feb 21, 2023 03:14 PM UTC in reply to Jörg Knappen from 02:37 PM:

you must move the King into the other camp to be able to give check and checkmate

No, the piece giving check must be beyond the borderline. (The king is restricted to ranks 3-5). Two rooks on rows 5 and 6 could in principle perform the usual mating net. (This is unlikely to work readily, as the opponent can probably intervene other pieces rather than just walk the king to the edge.)

As is evident from the questions here, the rules should be stated more clearly. And the questions around motivation for players to make progress are valid in this very far-from-chess setting; probably the best thing is to throw together a Game Courier settings (no need to enforce rules yet) and invite a few people to play.


Ed Friedlander's Chess Variant Applets. Hundreds of Java Applets for Playing Chess Variants.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Ben Reiniger wrote on Fri, Feb 24, 2023 07:06 PM UTC in reply to Fergus Duniho from 06:55 PM:

I'm able to use the applets in Chrome with the CheerpJ Applet Runner extension.

I know eventually all these workarounds will fail and these applets will be forever unplayable. And indeed there are increasingly good ways to keep playing many of the variants elsewhere. But Ed's applets (on his own website) were my first introduction to variants, and I'll be sad when I can't play them anymore.


Ben Reiniger wrote on Sat, Feb 25, 2023 04:56 PM UTC in reply to H. G. Muller from 06:42 AM:

The interactive diagram is almost surely a stronger opponent, maybe with a few exception games.

We can already filter searches by page type, so index clutter doesn't seem a huge concern. I would support cleanup at the database level: we duplicate information about the game for each page about it. But of course changing the database structure would require a very careful undertaking.

I'm not surprised Fergus has identified some bugs and inconsistencies, but I am surprised at how many have appeared so quickly.


Create Member Submitted Item. Chess Variant Pages members can post their own items to the site![All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Ben Reiniger wrote on Sun, Feb 26, 2023 06:31 PM UTC:

This first page of the member submitted item process has an ItemID, so it can be commented on, but they don't display at the bottom of the page (I added the comment through the Info page). I'm fine either way there.

But it also displays the Tags snippet, which has been misleading users into thinking they can tag their new submission.


RPS ChessA game information page
. Members-Only This game is based on the popular Rock Paper Scissors game... (7x7, Cells: 49) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]

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Tremendous Chess. Tremendous Chess is a large chess variant that is played on a 16×16 chessboard with 112 pieces per player. (16x16, Cells: 256) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Ben Reiniger wrote on Sun, Feb 26, 2023 11:47 PM UTC:

At first I figured this was just another "haha, it's big and there are a ton of pieces", but then I got to the Progressive part. I'm not sure if that saves the game, but it at least makes it worth asking about; your example games link doesn't work (and strikes me as a little sketchy anyway).


Zombie Wave Chess. Members-Only the game where an infinite amount of black zombies will try to checkmate your king. how long can you survive? (8x8, Cells: 64) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]

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Toggle Chess. Private Game with changing values - pawns determine the game. (8x8, Cells: 64) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]

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Tremendous Chess. Tremendous Chess is a large chess variant that is played on a 16×16 chessboard with 112 pieces per player. (16x16, Cells: 256) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Ben Reiniger wrote on Mon, Feb 27, 2023 01:55 PM UTC in reply to Вадря Покштя from 08:14 AM:

If it were possible to attach such a file here, I would gladly do it.

Under the Edit menu, Upload or Manage Files.

The first experimental correspondence tournament has recently ended and I have the results of all 42 games with diagrams. If you want I can send it to you. [...] Judging by the results of the tournament, many players, even of a decent level, were confused and did not find the right tactics and strategy over the board.

That would be nice. Send to [email protected] so other editors can see it if they'd like. Probably putting in the page one particularly illuminating example game would also be nice.


Grand Triple Chess. Chess on an 16 x 24 board (i.e. six boards) with 3 sets of pieces. (24x16, Cells: 384) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Ben Reiniger wrote on Fri, Mar 10, 2023 04:12 PM UTC in reply to H. G. Muller from 03:42 PM:

I agree that the empty board should be removed. The large blue area is due to putting too large a number of empty spaces (made blue rather than board spaces by the limit to number of rows): replacing the 384 at the beginning of the code string by 96 should work. For file labels that's a parameter in the diagram designer (and resulting image url string) and can easily be fixed, but it's worth saying something in the text: you want to skip x so that capture notation doesn't conflict.

Also, there's an odd pattern of blue strips between some rows and columns. Changing the scale parameter to 60 seems to fix it; other numbers give different patterns. Probably better is to use the default scale for the diagram designer, but then scale it down in the page.

But is there some motivation for this game? There are other games that just push together multiple boards & piece sets. Does this one stand out as better in some way? Why so much space behind the pieces?


Radioactive Queen Chess. White has a little diff in setup, but great diff in the game. (8x8, Cells: 64) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Ben Reiniger wrote on Mon, Mar 20, 2023 04:22 PM UTC in reply to H. G. Muller from 02:29 PM:

For reference, Betza has a (unofficial/untested?) Chess-with-different-armies team with an amazon; he just limits the rooks to R4 and keeps the other pieces:

https://www.chessvariants.org/d.betza/chessvar/cvda/amazon.html


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