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well, not a complete lack of example games, there is one here. http://geocities.com/verdrahciretop/src8.html i havn't checked it out, and i am guessing it teaches you nothing, but not sure, as i havn't looked at it. At the end of that game, there are another 2 example games, but you must be member to see (free membership i think)
For most of us, Internet costs money, and playing a game of Stanley Random Chess would certainly be bound to eat up a lot of time, and therefore cost a lot of money. Although you said that SRC is amusing, do you really think it is worth the money to play it? For instance, let's put the shoe on the other foot. Suppose I (or someone you don't know, but whom I were to approve of, and you had absolutely no way of locating that person) were the one to define the 'secret rules' behind Stanley Random Chess, and she alone were to decide on whether your moves were acceptable or not. That kind of a setup could certainly have the potential of driving up costs, don't you think? Not to mention 'bandwidth' in the form of noise, or near-noise. Would you still find the game amusing enough to play for a few months, or a few years? (Now for an 'opening the floodgates' argument:) The next hypothetical offers us even more food for thought: suppose a hundred thousand people or more found my version of Stanley Random Chess (with my own list of approved but anonymous rulemakers) engaging, would the increased consumption of bandwidth be worth it to you, to call it amusing? Or, if the ante is upped to an even higher stake, would it be worth it to society? After all, if robots could be programmed to play Stanley Random Chess - not that they are /that/ creative - and even if they would be answerable to their owners alone, and not to society, would you still find it amusing?
yep, most chess players have no sense of humor alright lol he never said he was going to play the game, so i guess he stills finds it amusing. i find it amusing, and i find your post amusing too :) i get the internet, regardless of if i was to play src or not, i don't really see a cost in it, maybe there is, who cares, and anyway, who would seriously play src ha ha, but if you did, i think that is great :) let us know how it goes :)
The rules are honestly not that difficult to find out, and most players willing to take the time to play one or two games at schemingmind.com will discover them quickly. Nobody should be allowed to question the authenticity and legitimacy of Stanley Random Chess without first trying the game online at schemingmind.com.
I have personally played several games, and can appreciate and understand the game's appeal! New players should not give up too quickly, and indeed the best way to learn the game is simply play one or two games with experienced players.
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First of all my apologies if my promoting this chess variant has caused any offence to members of this site, I can assure you that this hasn't ever been my intention. I do realise that SRC is not a conventional chess variant, however I would hope that people who were sufficiently enlightened to change the rules of orthodox chess would be prepared to at least consider the possibilities.
Whether or not this page remains on this site is clearly an editorial decision, however Stanley Random Chess is a chess variant. I fail to see why some people find it distasteful, but then many orthodox chess players find CrazyHouse and Fischer Random Chess distasteful in the same way...
I can assure everyone here that Stanley Random Chess is a real game, which is currently being played and enjoyed by dozens of people. The rules are occult - nobody knows them; whether you choose to believe that this is because they are contained in hundred year old bound leather volumes which are only available to members of a secret society, or because they are encoded in a computer algorithm on the SchemingMind server is up to you - the important thing is that it doesn't matter, you don't need to know the rules to play the game... that's the whole point.
Regarding the previous posts here - part of the fun of SRC is discussing the mythology around the game, and a common style for this prose seems to have evolved. I do recognise the names of some of the posters here from SchemingMind, and if I am correct in identifying these people then these posts have been made by discrete individuals. I would urge you to check IP addresses if possible before taking any further action.
I would at least recommend that your editorial policy insist that all gamepages be mainly serious and rational in describing the rules, board, pieces, history, etc. In this case, it should clearly state that Stanley Random Chess is a game where the rules are hidden information. Advocates of this game are not winning any new fans by having their game genuinely mistaken for a hoax or a practical joke by intelligent peers. Furthermore, frustrating people who show a serious interest with endless layers of presumably funny or witty bullshit is neither humorous nor clever. A number of people have received extremely-far-from-straight answers to their straight questions. The humor in their treatment escapes me completely.
I agree with Derek. If the rules themselves are hidden information, then that is an interesting idea which merits consideration (and, perhaps, playtesting.) But as Derek points out, the pages don't say that this is hidden information, and these pages are so long and convoluted as to deliberately dance around that point. Furthermore, what is missing from the discussion on this page, is the fact that this is a continuation of a previous discussion. I assume that the start of the discussion is not here because it originated under a user-created topic thread before the game had an official page. In any event, when the questions of the legitimacy of the so-called history of SRC came up, and I insisted that SRC does not pre-date Orthodox Chess, the response was a resounding denial that any of the history was invented. He, (Gregory Topov, I believe,) insisted that, although the history may be humorous, it was completely legit and that future research will prove centuries-old heritage of SRC as the true, original form of Chess. (This is paraphrased from memory since I do not know how to locate the original thread, but my memory is quite good.) As I previously stated, humor is one thing; lying is quite another.
Also, Austin Lookwood said:
The rules are occult - nobody knows them.
How exactly is this possible? How could the scheming mind server have been programmed to enfore rules that are unknown by anyone? Also, editor Tony Quintanilla has stated that the rules were disclosed to him. So the rules are known by some people and to say otherwise is just more misinformation.
This whole discussion could terminate in a hurry if a simple change was made to these pages. State up front what SRC is and what it isn't. This would help encourage support from the members of this community, rather than discouraging it, and would not detract from whatever humor may be present.
It is obvious that the Anti-Stanleys have reconstituted their effort to eradicate SRC. The previous attempt resulted in decades of repression, lost documents and rather boring knock-offs of SRC, like the Mad Queen variant which many still believe is the original game of Chess. Anti-Stanleyism is an ugly thing. Usually the genetic result of the absence of the buffo-osso. There are maintenance techniques which can counter-act this deficiency. Visit the ASA(Anti-Stanley Anonymous) website for a list of phrenologists which will be glad to assist in alleviating this crippling condition. The local support groups are quite nice, too. Unfortunately, the effect of the Anti-Stanley movement cannot be totally wiped out. There usually survives a Master and an Apprentice.
Larry Smith: This comment is a joke, right? Or are you trolling?
This article was submitted in a complete form and accepted for publication as such by a ChessVariants editor nearly a year ago, it's been available for peer review ever since. No respectable publisher would demand changes so long after publication, and I'm sure that ChessVariants is no exception to this. OK, if the editors now feel that the article is offensive in any way then simply remove it and we'll discuss it no more; but please don't ask Greg to change it at this point.
The rules of SRC are occult within certain limitations; moves which are legal in SRC are always legal in Standard Chess, but not necessarily the reverse... so if I enter the move 1.e4 in my game, the server might (or might not) deem that move to be illegal under SRC rules, and change it to 1.a3. The reason for this is unimportant, it could be because dark squares are modal on the third Tuesday of the month, or it could just be because there's a random number generator hidden somewhere within the software - you don't know and it doesn't matter, the fact is that it's impossible to say why without some degree of confabulation - and the more outrageous that confabulation, the more enjoyable the game.
Yeah, OK, some of the things that have been written about SRC may have been slightly exaggerated... but c'mon guys, relax - it's only a bit of fun!
I personally believe that pushing sleeping trolls over, or 'trolling', is a cruel and rather childish act. And besides it has nothing to do with SRC since the use or participation of trolls is strictly forbidden by the 1987 Articles of the Tongalese SRC Convention. It's not that trolls have low IQs which cause the problems, it just that when they become fixated. This can result in them endlessly staring at such things as moving fan blades, constantly digging in their noses, or humming the same tune over and over and over.... But SRC still commemorates their past participation by tournament audiences spontaneously breaking into rousing rounds of 'Pop Goes the Weasel'. The humming of such by a player can result in severe penalization.
I think I can clear up the problems presented by those who are mystified by the rules of Stanley Random Chess. As the current American Grand Master, I can assure you that even I find it hard to keep up with the volumes of rules and stipulations that are involved. In fact, I would suggest that about 50% of the moves I make feel as if they were chosen at random from all the possible moves available at that time. It's only afterwards that I'm able to determine the reason for my own errors, after looking up the specifics of the situation in my leatherbound library. (My personal Achilles Heel are the moon phase transition instituted in Berlin, 1484.) So while I often like to open with e4, about half the time my opening move is substituted with the nearest legal ('random', to the layman) move from all the available legal moves. Again, I've never failed to be able to find the rational for this transition upon review of the historical journals. I almost always find time to note these transitions to my opponent, who sometimes finds such things humourous. For example, when a King joins inline with a row of pawns, this is known as 'Slumming'. When a Queen is prematurely brought into play she is often refered to as 'Dancing'. The terminology is quiet liberating. Should you have further questions, I'm sure playing a game would satisfy your curiosity. Feel free to challenge me on Scheming Minds.
austin take it easy, i don't think there is a strong drive to have this game removed, just ya normal bunch of knockers, which you should understand, because games make it to this site, and they are a 'joke' on purpose, and src can easily be mistaken as this. anyway, now to a important question ... how was src played before computers came along ... someone must of known of the rules lol ... kind of funny how much talk this game gets, with seemingly no one bothering to try out the game at schemeingmind he he
Topov!! i thought you were dead!?! http://geocities.com/verdrahciretop/src7.html 'This was GM Topov's last published article about Stanley Random Chess, prior to his unfortunate death at the hands of escaped primates at the New York City Zoo. Stanley Random Chess today owes much of its popularity to GM Topov. Under his influence it has an active presence on the internet, notably the excellent web-based email chess server www.schemingmind.com.' Nice to see someone got that wrong and you are alive and well :))
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