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H. G. Muller wrote on Mon, Mar 18 04:49 PM UTC in reply to Kevin Pacey from 04:35 PM:

You should not see any search results, because you did not request a search. The confusing thing here is that the address bar is used for two pupropses. If you type a URL there (presumably recognized by containing no spaces, and a number of internal dots) it interprets it as a website address, and goes there. If it doesn't recognize what you type as a URL, it sends it to the website of your defaut search engine (apparently Google), and that will then return search results for your request, which will be displayed with clickable links.

If you get no response, it usually means it cannot even connect to the address that you typed.

The reason I put up that page is that when you also suffer a crash loading that, we can systematically start deleting parts of it until it starts working, and determine that way what the offending part was.

[Edit] I now made a page so simple that it should never cause a problem for any browser, at https://chessvariants.com/hi.html . Check if you can see that.

 


🕸📝Fergus Duniho wrote on Mon, Mar 18 06:11 PM UTC in reply to Kevin Pacey from Sun Mar 17 01:37 AM:

Since the Ralph Betza link worked for you, I have modified the first three links on this page to test what might be wrong.

First, go to https://www.chessvariants.com/d.betza/pieceval/index.html

The "About the Author" link has the header.

The "Introduction" link has the footer.

The "Early Attempts at Deriving These Values" link has the CSS file.

Following the link to each of these files may help narrow down where the problem lies.


🕸📝Fergus Duniho wrote on Mon, Mar 18 08:15 PM UTC in reply to Kevin Pacey from Sat Mar 16 04:05 PM:

I originally got an iphone 11 (since has been updated to be 15, I think).

To check whether the version of iOS might be the problem, I charged up my iPad 2, which runs iOS 9.3.5. Since the iPhone 11 starts with iOS 13 and supports up to iOS 17.4, it is well ahead of my old iPad in what it supports. Using the iPad 2, I tested whether I could reach the site with Safari, Chrome, Opera Mini, Dolphin, and Edge. I could reach it with all of them except Dolphin. In case it was something on the page, I also tried the Ralph Betza page, the hi page, my personal website, and my blog. Of these, only the blog worked. I suspect there is an issue with the DNS server it uses to resolve domain names, though I found no way to change it. When I entered the server's IP address into Dolphin, it did go to the Chess Variant Pages homepage. The only issues with the other browsers were that they didn't recognize this site's HTTPS and required me to confirm that I wanted to see the site, and Dark mode didn't work.


Kevin Pacey wrote on Tue, Mar 19 01:40 AM UTC in reply to H. G. Muller from Mon Mar 18 04:49 PM:

Hi H.G.

When I type that address into address bar on Safari, I get a White screen, except in the upper left there is 'Hello World!' with some small writing under it. Hope that helps.


Kevin Pacey wrote on Tue, Mar 19 01:46 AM UTC in reply to Fergus Duniho from Mon Mar 18 06:11 PM:

Hi Fergus

The About the Author and Introduction links gave me no problem. However, the Early Attempts at Deriving These Values link caused a White page, i.e. crash.


🕸📝Fergus Duniho wrote on Tue, Mar 19 02:09 AM UTC in reply to Fergus Duniho from Mon Mar 18 06:11 PM:

Okay, check the next two links on that page. For these, I have split global.css into two parts. One uses front.css, and the other uses tail.css.


Kevin Pacey wrote on Tue, Mar 19 02:27 AM UTC in reply to Fergus Duniho from 02:09 AM:

Hi Fergus.

I had no problem with the first of the next 2 links you asked me to try. However, the 2nd such link caused a crash.


🕸📝Fergus Duniho wrote on Tue, Mar 19 02:59 AM UTC in reply to Kevin Pacey from 02:27 AM:

That's curious, as the new css is mostly in the first one. I'll try to narrow it down further tomorrow.


🕸📝Fergus Duniho wrote on Tue, Mar 19 12:43 PM UTC in reply to Kevin Pacey from 02:27 AM:

I have now placed new CSS files in the next two.

"Getting More Data" uses front2.css, which has the code from front.css with some from tail.css.

"Impossible by Definition" uses tail2.css, which has the rest of tail.css.


Kevin Pacey wrote on Tue, Mar 19 01:27 PM UTC in reply to Fergus Duniho from 12:43 PM:

@ Fergus

'Getting More Data' link causes a white page plus crash, on my iphone (you didn't mention it, but I also checked 'Mobility...' link before that link, and that link worked okay for me).

'Impossible by Definition' link worked okay for me, on the other hand.


🕸📝Fergus Duniho wrote on Tue, Mar 19 04:16 PM UTC in reply to Kevin Pacey from 01:27 PM:

I removed what I think is the offending code from global.css and globalindex.css, and I purged these from the cache. So try the homepage again, and bear in mind that you may have to refresh your browser cache. Also, I have used globaltest.css on "Summary of Part 1". This is a copy of the updated global.css under a different filename to guarantee it is not using the old version.


Kevin Pacey wrote on Tue, Mar 19 05:43 PM UTC in reply to Fergus Duniho from 04:16 PM:

Using Safari's address bar on my iphone,

chessvariants dot com resulted in a white page plus crash.

When I tried the link 'Summary of Part 1' (in Betza article), again a white page plus crash happened.


🕸📝Fergus Duniho wrote on Tue, Mar 19 06:25 PM UTC in reply to Kevin Pacey from 05:43 PM:

Okay, "References" uses front3.css, and "Thought Experiment" uses tail3.css.

For these, I just slightly adjusted what was in front2.css and tail2.css.


Kevin Pacey wrote on Tue, Mar 19 06:59 PM UTC in reply to Fergus Duniho from 06:25 PM:

The link 'References' caused a white page and crash on my iphone. However, the 'Thought Experiment' link worked for me.


🕸📝Fergus Duniho wrote on Tue, Mar 19 07:16 PM UTC in reply to Kevin Pacey from 06:59 PM:

Okay, I removed the only other CSS that could be causing the problem from global.css and globalindex.css, and I created a new copy of global.css called globaltest2.css, which I linked to in "Personal Variations". Try the homepage again, refreshing the cache if you need to, and this page.


Kevin Pacey wrote on Tue, Mar 19 08:11 PM UTC in reply to Fergus Duniho from 07:16 PM:

The link chessvariants dot com again resulted in a crash (I did it on Brave as well as Safari on my iphone, in case I didn't refresh my cache properly on Safari).

The 'Personal Variations' link (from Betza article) caused a white page plus crash, when I clicked on it while using Safari.


🕸📝Fergus Duniho wrote on Wed, Mar 20 01:13 AM UTC in reply to Kevin Pacey from Tue Mar 19 08:11 PM:

I found another point where I could divide global.css into two files. So now "Point Count Chess" has front4.css, and "Quantum of Advantage" has tail4.css.


Kevin Pacey wrote on Wed, Mar 20 03:37 AM UTC in reply to Fergus Duniho from 01:13 AM:

Hi Fergus

Those links both worked. Even better, at this time tonight I can get to the CVP homepage now. I shall try to explain what I think might have caused the whole problem with my iphone, regarding CVP site at least:

Earlier tonight I went to my usual local bar. A friend with an Android phone was there and he got to the CVP homepage no problem, When my iphone still failed to get there without a crash, he suggested I check my phone for updates. He then started one that was waiting on my iphone for me, just by getting me to agree to the update terms (hopefully it's completely free of any new $ charges to me).

That apparently started to make my iphone into a version 17.something (cannot recall exact decimal number of version), finishing up by soon after I got home, when I took my phone out of my pocket. Then, unlike a previous time I had a similar update done to my phone's version, my phone asked me for my house's Wifi's password (don't know if that's unusual or just new with this iphone update version - hopefully I won't need to bother to re-enter Wifi passwords, for use in the two bars I go out to). After that I soon had my iphone seeming to look about the same as before on its screen - except now I seem to be able to get anything on CVP site, so far, no problem, at least with Safari or Google search.


🕸📝Fergus Duniho wrote on Sun, Mar 24 05:40 PM UTC:

I made a couple changes to the dark theme logo.

  1. I replaced the Knight/Camel piece, which had represented the Pushmi-Pullyu, with the new Ram/Ox image for that piece.
  2. I removed the stuff hanging around the waist of the fairy princess. In an earlier version of the image, this had been long hair. Thanks to some changes I made to a source image I used to produce new images, she became short-haired. The stuff around her waist could be interpreted as cloth hanging from her sleeves, but it seemed a bit weird and out-of-place.

🕸📝Fergus Duniho wrote on Sun, Mar 24 10:19 PM UTC in reply to Bob Greenwade from Tue Mar 5 08:35 PM:

Or we are several people designing Staunton-like 3D pieces for printing. Importing a .stl into Meshmixer we could make very nice 2D images.

Those are suitable for going on individual Piececlopedia pages if someone would like to take charge of that. I'm not the one to do that, since I don't have a 3D printer or know anything about the image formats.

I nominate Jean-Louis. ;)

I don't think he is interested. Would you be interested in doing that? As the person who has made the most pieces for 3D printing, you would be more qualified than the rest of us to handle this. If you're familiar enough with HTML, I could set you up as an editor and give you the ability to update pages.


Bob Greenwade wrote on Sun, Mar 24 10:45 PM UTC in reply to Fergus Duniho from 10:19 PM:

I don't think he is interested. Would you be interested in doing that? As the person who has made the most pieces for 3D printing, you would be more qualified than the rest of us to handle this. If you're familiar enough with HTML, I could set you up as an editor and give you the ability to update pages.

I mostly was kidding re: Jean-Louis.

As for me doing it, I might be willing, but I'll need to look into what I can find in the way of zero-cost tools. (Now pardon me while I run off to search.)


H. G. Muller wrote on Mon, Mar 25 07:46 AM UTC in reply to Bob Greenwade from Sun Mar 24 10:45 PM:

I don't think it is a good idea (to put it mildly) to have computer-generated images of pieces in the piececlopedia. Photographs of actual 3d-printed designs might be another thing; if we would also publish a link to a file people could use to 3d-print those themselves these would serve a purpose. Many of the virtual pieces I have seen here are unacceptably ugly, fragile, or unsuitable.


Jean-Louis Cazaux wrote on Mon, Mar 25 10:54 AM UTC in reply to H. G. Muller from 07:46 AM:

I am on the same line than HG. I was thinking of creating a page for a "catalog" of the pieces I have designed for 3D-printing. I have printed all of them, some several times in order to be fully satisfied.

Would that be useful?

If yes, I imagine I have to follow the same process than when creating a page for a new variant?


Bob Greenwade wrote on Mon, Mar 25 01:59 PM UTC in reply to Jean-Louis Cazaux from 10:54 AM:

I do think that would be a good idea. If I can get my 3D printer working again, I may do the same.

I think it'd be done as an "other" kind of page -- create it like a game page, with a note to the Editors.

Aside for the Editors: I think it might be helpful to have a form specifically designed for these more "generic" pages.


🕸📝Fergus Duniho wrote on Mon, Mar 25 03:48 PM UTC in reply to H. G. Muller from 07:46 AM:

I don't think it is a good idea (to put it mildly) to have computer-generated images of pieces in the piececlopedia. Photographs of actual 3d-printed designs might be another thing; if we would also publish a link to a file people could use to 3d-print those themselves these would serve a purpose.

I am happy to include 3D printable pieces. However, I am not going to dismiss AI art because it can't be fed into a 3D printer to produce physical pieces. Production is not the only purpose of art. It also serves the purpose of stirring the imagination and helping people think about what is possible.

Many of the virtual pieces I have seen here are unacceptably ugly, fragile, or unsuitable.

You're welcome to criticize individual images, but I will not consider a broad, subjective opinion like this as a reason to give up on a new artistic tool. It's not as if I just give it a prompt and upload whatever it draws. I carefully select the best images I get from AI, and of late I have been fine-tuning images by using altered images to give it a better idea of what I want.


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