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Fairy Pieces Part 2. Showcasing 158 Fairy Pieces. (8x8, Cells: 64) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Jörg Knappen wrote on Sun, Nov 17, 2024 10:12 PM UTC:

The very last comment for today:

There is an alternative name for the Camel-Rider, namely Mehari used by French Problemists. It can be found on Jerome Grimberts pages here

http://jgrimbert.free.fr/pieces/p042.shtml


💡📝Christine Bagley-Jones wrote on Mon, Nov 18, 2024 02:58 AM UTC:

Jörg, thanks again for more info, I'll have to take it one step at a time.

I just updated to make your piece 'Teutonic Knight' have the correct name and put it in the right order of pieces and also adjusted it's position in the pieces diagram.

Also the year 2001 for 'Seeping Switchers' was added.

That is all I have time for right now, I'll get back to this 'monster' later lol.


Jörg Knappen wrote on Mon, Nov 18, 2024 08:33 AM UTC in reply to Christine Bagley-Jones from 02:58 AM:

Take the time you need to tame this monster.

There is another minor correction left:

'Knight-Camel-Wazir', see 'Eutonic-Knight'.

should have the "T" for "Teutonic", too.


🔔Notification on Mon, Nov 18, 2024 12:37 PM UTC:

The author, Christine Bagley-Jones, has updated this page.


💡📝Christine Bagley-Jones wrote on Mon, Nov 18, 2024 12:39 PM UTC:

omg that knight, lol. ok done :)


Jörg Knappen wrote on Tue, Nov 19, 2024 08:39 AM UTC:

This is a remark on spelling: The little Fers/Ferz occurs in both spellings in this file. Both spellings are legitimate but I think you should decide on one and use it consistently and mention the other one only in the main entry for the piece. My personal preference is Ferz with z, but I don't mind if you use Fers throughout.


Jörg Knappen wrote on Tue, Nov 19, 2024 09:36 AM UTC:

Emperor (Marquis)

I think this is worth mentioning:

Plays in 'Jetan', 1922, Edgar Rice Burroughs. Called 'Thoat'.


Jörg Knappen wrote on Tue, Nov 19, 2024 12:12 PM UTC:

Lion-Grande_Acedrez:

The combined (0,3)(1,3) leaper (Camel+Threeleaper) plays in Citadelir Chess 2020, Daphne Snowmoon. Named Prophet.


Jörg Knappen wrote on Tue, Nov 19, 2024 12:39 PM UTC:

Knight-Dabbaba-Fers

I have not noticed this combined leaper in any game.


Jörg Knappen wrote on Tue, Nov 19, 2024 12:49 PM UTC:

Zebra-Wazir-Fers

Never seen this creature.


Jörg Knappen wrote on Tue, Nov 19, 2024 12:51 PM UTC:

Typo (Cut-and-paste error):

Currently, Zebra-Wazir and Zebra-Wazir-Fers are duplicated


Jörg Knappen wrote on Tue, Nov 19, 2024 01:06 PM UTC:

A potential addition:

Wazir-Knight-Threeleaper see Flier

Flier

Combined 1,0 2,1 3,0 leaper Plays in The Sons of Mithras, ca. 1992, Michael Chang Gummelt and Holly Gummelt. Called Flier in this game.


Jörg Knappen wrote on Tue, Nov 19, 2024 02:10 PM UTC:

Two more potential additions

Titan

A combined 3,0-3,1-3,2-3,3-leaper, the larger analogue to the squirrel. Other names are Cheetah (Silvermann, Cazaux) and Beaver (Gilman).

Plays in Fantasy Grand Chess: Giant Army, 2000, Peter Hatch. Called Titan Plays in Phantastic XIII, 2022, Jean-Louis Cazaux. Called Cheetah

Direwolf

Combined piece of Squirrel and Titan.

Plays in Phantastic XIII, 2022, Jean-Louis Cazaux. Called Direwolf (in the revised edition, formerly Sabertooth)


Lev Grigoriev wrote on Tue, Nov 19, 2024 02:13 PM UTC in reply to Jörg Knappen from 12:49 PM:

I’ve found a good name for King-Zebra compound: Zoologist.


Jörg Knappen wrote on Tue, Nov 19, 2024 02:17 PM UTC:

Giraffe-Ferz, Giraffe-Wazir, Giraffe-Wazir-Ferz

I haven't encountered any of those three pieces in a game.


Jörg Knappen wrote on Tue, Nov 19, 2024 04:06 PM UTC:

Here are some rather marginal leapers.

German problemists (see https://dieschwalbe.de/lexikon.htm ) have named a few more leapers:

3,0-leaper: Dromedar "dromedary"

3,3-leaper: Gecko "gecko". Was Betza aware of this name when he choose the letter G in his funny notation for (3,3)?

5,0-leaper is unnamed, Gilman offers Quibbler for this one

5,2-leaper: Korsar "corsair"

5,0-3,0 combined leaper: Kröte "paddock" (since the more natural "toad" is already taken)

7,0-leaper: Hirsch "deer" (one may also consider "stag" here, but Cazaux uses stag for a 4,2-leaper). Gilman's name for this one is "settler".


Jörg Knappen wrote on Tue, Nov 19, 2024 05:36 PM UTC:

This was an error. Adrian King's Dayrider is in fact AADDmK.

Alibabarider

Plays in Typhoon and Jupiter, 1999, Adrian King. Called Dayrider in both games.


Jörg Knappen wrote on Tue, Nov 19, 2024 10:01 PM UTC:

Queen-of-the-night

Plays in 'Pocket Mutation Chess', by Mike Nelson, 2003.

Add: Called 'Amazonrider' in this game.

I hope my series of comments stops here, but I can't guarantee for that. As a side effect I removed a lot of errors from the English Wikipedia article "List of fairy chess pieces".


HaruN Y wrote on Wed, Nov 20, 2024 03:43 AM UTC in reply to Jörg Knappen from Tue Nov 19 05:36 PM:

Alibabarider is SS while Dayrider is mKSS.

The combined (0,3)(1,3) also appeared in my Treacherous Trebuchets (To an editor: It's ready to be published).

Combined 1,0 2,1 3,0 would be a Wazir-Knight-Dromedar, Wazir-Knight-Tripper would be a combined 1,0 2,1 3,3.

By the way, AFAIK, now most variants with combined 1,0 2,1 3,0 use the name "Hydra" due to Stuart Spence.

See: Wequedong, Snake Pit, Wiibid, No Step On Snek, Lion Kingdom War, Topaz dezert.

Also, I edited my comment.


Jörg Knappen wrote on Wed, Nov 20, 2024 08:59 PM UTC in reply to HaruN Y from 03:43 AM:

I meant the colourswitching piece, the numbers were correct, the last name not. I edited my comment to correct that. Thanks for notifying.


Jörg Knappen wrote on Thu, Nov 21, 2024 09:36 AM UTC in reply to Christine Bagley-Jones from Mon Nov 18 02:58 AM:

Just for the curious: I accidentally found the original proposal of the Sweeping Switchers here:

https://www.chessvariants.com/ratings/-piececlopedia.dir-ideal-and-practical-values-4.html

It got refined with the help of the editors here.


H. G. Muller wrote on Wed, Nov 27, 2024 10:21 AM UTC:

This article makes it easy to find how a piece of a given name moves. But the reverse is still very difficult. Perhaps there should be an index of some kind, where you can alphabetically look up the Betza notation, and find names that are used for a piece that moves that way.

Except that Betza notation is not really unique. So for this to work we should define some 'canonical form' of the notation, which would tell us that we would have to look for WD rather than DW. This makes purely alphabetic order perhaps less convenient; ordering primarily by atom, ignoring the modifiers and ranges might be preferable.

Anyway, these thoughts occurred to me when I was wondering whether there exist names for AH and DG, the 'expanded' versions of Kirin and Phoenix. I suppose these pieces qualify as amphibians, as the individual D, A, G and H components are severely area bound, while AH can go anywhere, and DG only has normal color binding.


Daniel Zacharias wrote on Wed, Nov 27, 2024 07:35 PM UTC in reply to H. G. Muller from 10:21 AM:

Bat sounds nice to me for AH


H. G. Muller wrote on Wed, Nov 27, 2024 07:52 PM UTC in reply to Daniel Zacharias from 07:35 PM:

It appears to be in the article under the name 'Newt'. A one-letter abbreviation would collide with that for Knight, though.

BTW, I used a standard Frog (FH) in Megalomachy; perhaps this can be added to the artice?


💡📝Christine Bagley-Jones wrote on Thu, Nov 28, 2024 08:46 AM UTC:

Yes I can add the game 'Megalomachy' to Frog piece info, and other info given in comments so far, I'll do an update before Christmas with a zrf, just a bit busy at moment.


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