Enter Your Reply The Comment You're Replying To Joe Joyce wrote on Thu, Sep 6, 2007 02:05 AM UTC:David, thanks for the references; I particularly enjoyed the piece value discussions. [I read the Piecelopedia comments on the camel, also.] Legler also increases power on the board by about 1/6, roughly. I suspect most of us who care or think about this would agree that that's too much power for a serious and subtle game. Bash, smash and crash is a different story; many of us like a whole pile of high-powered pieces in a shoot-em-up style game for fun, but I doubt many of us believe this is the way chess is going in the future. George and Gary have proposed similar pieces, lesser versions of the BN and RN. George has lamed the knight component, offering a rook-mao and a bishop-moa [if I got the names right]. Gary has offered functionally all but identical pieces, with the rook-ferz and the bishop-wazir. This 'seems' to be a trend. I think we have one answer to the way chess is going. Chessplayers want to 'upgun'. Are there other realistic possibilities, or do we all trade in our .38s for .45s and have done with it? Edit Form You may not post a new comment, because ItemID CVwiki does not match any item.