Enter Your Reply The Comment You're Replying To Joe Joyce wrote on Fri, Oct 31, 2008 06:09 PM UTC:Let's discuss Black Ghost Chess [a 'George 2011' proposal]. Which variant did you have in mind? I was one of those who played a standard black ghost game, and came to the conclusion that the piece overbalances the game to black. Use of ghosts for both sides is problematical for a mainstream game because it adds 2 totally different pieces to the standard orthochess mix that behave differently than the other pieces, and are basically used to get in the way of the other player. I guess I have an aesthetic objection as much as anything else. The game didn't feel as 'serious' as chess does to me, because the added pieces are gadflies rather than troops. While a fascinating idea, ghosts are as much a kludge as castling or pawn double steps and en passant. It's a feeling of 'add-on' rather than integration. At least, that's my opinion. If [enough] people agree with that opinion, that would disqualify games with a ghost. In general, I'd argue that the 'next chess' would not use outre pieces - and by that I mean outre for chess players, not us chess heretics. I'd also argue that the changes would not be of an add-on nature, for aesthetic reasons. This is my problem with games like Seirawan or the 68-square boards. There is an 'add-on' or a 'lets take this and stick it into chess' feel about these games that doesn't sit quite right with me. I'm looking for a good, conservative re-design to upgrade, not an aftermarket kit bolted to antiquity, for the next chess contenders. I honestly feel the 80 square 8x10 is a better board for the games proposed by their creators as good candidates. These games are not disqualified from being the next chess, but they do have a mark against them. Edit Form You may not post a new comment, because ItemID NextChess2 does not match any item.