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Joe Joyce wrote on Sun, May 30, 2010 01:54 PM UTC:

Hey, Charles. The Duke and Elk are now as shown in the set-up on the 2 end boards [labeled 'an' and 'fn'], but we are short 6 pieces for the breakdown products of your combo pieces. I was theming the pieces as best I could, sharp angles being ferz-type pieces, crescent moons being the trigonal 2-space leapers, that sort of thing. But that's busted with the last 6 pieces. I can replace the current Duke and Elk with the crown and moose pawn, but that just offends my sense of aesthetics so much I'd want to bring the squirrel in, so we could have a moose and squirrel combo, and then maybe a Boris and Na...ahh, well, I may just look for the 6 least-offensive pieces and stick them in. Might swap the Duke pieces, so I could free up the one currently used for one of the 6, if it looks better that way. Any suggestions you may have, from ditch the moose to having a specific Boris piece to use, I will take at this point. If something becomes too annoying, it can be changed.

Alright, I see what you mean now by the board configuration. You want me to cut the board the same way, but spread it out north to south [up and down on the screen] instead of east to west [right to left]. Is this correct? The reason I did it across is to get the biggest possible board on the screen, and there's more room side to side. The pieces are kinda small now, and if I shrink the board any more, I, if no one else, will have problems distinguishing them. What I can do is turn your whole array sideways, like I did for 3D Great Shatranj. It looked and felt ugly to me in the raumschach-type configuration.
/play/pbm/play.php?game%3D3D+Great+Shatranj%26settings%3D3D+GtS+1
/play/pbm/play.php?game%3D3D+Sideways+Great+Shatranj%26settings%3D3D+SGtS+1

Please give me the specific alphanumerics you want for your up and down layout, and I will rotate them also, so that if you turn your monitor on its side, the gameboard will be laid out and numbered the way you want. To lay out the board up and down and have it fit on one screen, I'd have to shrink everything around 20%. It's doable, should you wish.

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Redistribution 3d Chess. Relatively small 3d variant with short-range pieces including Pasha family. (4x(4x6), Cells: 96)

💡📝Charles Gilman wrote on Sat, Jun 12, 2010 06:21 AM UTC:

The array looks correct now. The place I was talking about non-array pieces being missing was beneath 'Available Pieces - This table shows you what pieces belong to the piece set you are using.' I wasn't suggesting showing them on any kind of artificial extension to the board - although during play they would of course appear on the board itself through fusion and fisson. I hope that this clarifies things further.

Joe Joyce wrote on Fri, Jun 11, 2010 04:55 AM UTC:

/play/pbm/play.php?game%3DRedistribution3d%26settings%3DR3d2

I still need to do the chart of pieces and how they work. I might just put the combo and breakdown pieces on the side of the preset, in islands of board, as both visual reference and icon code for the pieces.

💡📝Charles Gilman wrote on Thu, Jun 10, 2010 05:47 PM UTC:

Here are the four symmetries. Note that kv and KV are the Emperors.

1: The way I wrote the rules page was with mirror symmetry:

fv de wv ae | da ve kv wf | wf wd fa da | ae wv de fv
-- -- -- -- | -- -- -- -- | -- -- -- -- | -- -- -- --
-- -- -- -- | -- -- -- -- | -- -- -- -- | -- -- -- --
-- -- -- -- | -- -- -- -- | -- -- -- -- | -- -- -- --
-- -- -- -- | -- -- -- -- | -- -- -- -- | -- -- -- --
FV DE WV AE | DA VE KV WF | WF WD FA DA | AE WV DE FV

2: Here is vertical-axis rotational symmetry:

ae wv de fv | wf kv ve da | da fa wd wf | fv de wv ae
-- -- -- -- | -- -- -- -- | -- -- -- -- | -- -- -- --
-- -- -- -- | -- -- -- -- | -- -- -- -- | -- -- -- --
-- -- -- -- | -- -- -- -- | -- -- -- -- | -- -- -- --
-- -- -- -- | -- -- -- -- | -- -- -- -- | -- -- -- --
FV DE WV AE | DA VE KV WF | WF WD FA DA | AE WV DE FV

3: Here is horizontal-axis rotational symmetry:

ae wv de fv | wf wd fa da | da ve kv wf | fv de wv ae
-- -- -- -- | -- -- -- -- | -- -- -- -- | -- -- -- --
-- -- -- -- | -- -- -- -- | -- -- -- -- | -- -- -- --
-- -- -- -- | -- -- -- -- | -- -- -- -- | -- -- -- --
-- -- -- -- | -- -- -- -- | -- -- -- -- | -- -- -- --
FV DE WV AE | DA VE KV WF | WF WD FA DA | AE WV DE FV

4: Here is rotated mirror symmetry:

fv de wv ae | da fa wd wf | wf kv ve da | ae wv de fv
-- -- -- -- | -- -- -- -- | -- -- -- -- | -- -- -- --
-- -- -- -- | -- -- -- -- | -- -- -- -- | -- -- -- --
-- -- -- -- | -- -- -- -- | -- -- -- -- | -- -- -- --
-- -- -- -- | -- -- -- -- | -- -- -- -- | -- -- -- --
FV DE WV AE | DA VE KV WF | WF WD FA DA | AE WV DE FV

💡📝Charles Gilman wrote on Wed, Jun 9, 2010 06:09 PM UTC:

On the plus side the cells are now arranged the way that I anticipated, and the White pieces are correct. As I wrote it, however, all Black pieces should match the White one on the same rank, not just the Alibabas and Princes. A rotationally symmetric version might be interesting as well, but the Black pieces aren't set up for that either. There are four possible symmetries, which I could outline when I've had time offline to write them all up. Finally, the off-board list of possible pieces should include non-array as well as array pieces.

Joe Joyce wrote on Wed, Jun 9, 2010 05:34 PM UTC:

Charles, is this preset closer to what you want?

/play/pbm/play.php?game%3DRedistribution3d%26settings%3DR3d2

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