Enter Your Reply The Comment You're Replying To Michael Nelson wrote on Thu, Feb 2, 2012 03:51 AM UTC:George,is the mate# also one for pieces such as the Amazon which can force mate without the assistance of the friendly King? Is there a need to distinguish these pieces from mate number 1 pieces such as the Rook which can easily force mate with the help of the friendly King but not without it? Edit Form You may not post a new comment, because ItemID SOVEREIGN_P_Ts does not match any item.