Check out Atomic Chess, our featured variant for November, 2024.

Enter Your Reply

The Comment You're Replying To
Aurelian Florea wrote on Thu, Mar 29, 2018 09:59 AM UTC:

As someone who has played a few Chu shogi games lately I can safely say than many moves are not as loaded as in other games- like early generals pushes. That is something actually to my knowledge computers still don't properly acknowledge as they treat most moves roughly the same :)!

I don't think there is a comfortable way to make a larger game as long. We should just accept this and move one. Larger board and more pieces just mean more moves. You can make workarounds, but they are just that workarounds :)! They create more trouble than they solve, usually at least. Sure I could miss something. But from an Occam's razor point of view until proven otherwise longer games stay. I see lower down you agree with this assessment. As a comparison my apothecaries are a bit over 80 moves on average (2-3 more Apothecary 2 as it's pieces are weaker). So not exactly 100 but towards there. I did not count actually checkmating turns though. Som techniques are long and Fairy Max is good but not an expert probably (I was using 2 minutes for 30 moves anyway).

On the more games matter this is not exactly the issue I wanted to tackle. I think Fergus (if you see this Fergus) said somewhere (I don't remember when or where) about chess variants evolving in the ways of biological natural selection. There could be one winner but I find this unlikely. More, maybe even 4-5 with a number of players of the same order of magnitude is possible. As remember when you increase the board you also increase the number of possibilities. That comes as a personal preference also as I don't see "the most natural pieces" as the only ones to tackle the game. But this is the foundation (I should have probably insisted on it more earlier). I just think we should consider more games rather than just finding a perfect fit, which could very well never come .

 


Edit Form
Conduct Guidelines
This is a Chess variants website, not a general forum.
Please limit your comments to Chess variants or the operation of this site.
Keep this website a safe space for Chess variant hobbyists of all stripes.
Because we want people to feel comfortable here no matter what their political or religious beliefs might be, we ask you to avoid discussing politics, religion, or other controversial subjects here. No matter how passionately you feel about any of these subjects, just take it someplace else.
Avoid Inflammatory Comments
If you are feeling anger, keep it to yourself until you calm down. Avoid insulting, blaming, or attacking someone you are angry with. Focus criticisms on ideas rather than people, and understand that criticisms of your ideas are not personal attacks and do not justify an inflammatory response.
Quick Markdown Guide

By default, new comments may be entered as Markdown, simple markup syntax designed to be readable and not look like markup. Comments stored as Markdown will be converted to HTML by Parsedown before displaying them. This follows the Github Flavored Markdown Spec with support for Markdown Extra. For a good overview of Markdown in general, check out the Markdown Guide. Here is a quick comparison of some commonly used Markdown with the rendered result:

Top level header: <H1>

Block quote

Second paragraph in block quote

First Paragraph of response. Italics, bold, and bold italics.

Second Paragraph after blank line. Here is some HTML code mixed in with the Markdown, and here is the same <U>HTML code</U> enclosed by backticks.

Secondary Header: <H2>

  • Unordered list item
  • Second unordered list item
  • New unordered list
    • Nested list item

Third Level header <H3>

  1. An ordered list item.
  2. A second ordered list item with the same number.
  3. A third ordered list item.
Here is some preformatted text.
  This line begins with some indentation.
    This begins with even more indentation.
And this line has no indentation.

Alt text for a graphic image

A definition list
A list of terms, each with one or more definitions following it.
An HTML construct using the tags <DL>, <DT> and <DD>.
A term
Its definition after a colon.
A second definition.
A third definition.
Another term following a blank line
The definition of that term.