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I think a forum area for this is a splendid suggestion for discussing ideas, campaigning, and other sport. The email mentioned is the equivalent of making a formal 'entry' to the contest, and such formal enrries will still be posted here. When we get around to polls they'll link from this page as well.
Registration is open at last, a few hours early, and the first entrant is already signed up...
Both. I will update the list of entrants every so often, <b>and</b> the ultimate pairings will be a surprise. :)
The minor tweaks I added should answer your questions. (Yes, you can spread out your official suggestions. Yes, you can make a split nomination for a piece.) Thanks for asking!
The only persons who absolutely may not enter are Hans and I. (In general, editors have been submitting only non-competing entries for the past several contests.) We welcome entries from past prizewinners and newcomers alike.
The way I'll organize the polling... On January 1, I'll mail to each entrant the list in one of the categories, determined at random. Each entrant has till the end of the month to return a list of votes *in order of preference* in that category, voting for as many or as few as desired. At the end of the month, or when all eligible entrants have voted, a Condorcet preferential voting method will be used to pick a winner, which is then posted to the main page. Entries close for a category when voting starts. (In the case of the first rules vote, they re-open after the ballot because there's still one more rule to pick.) If you have entered in any category, you may vote in every category, at the proper time. On February 1, the process repeats, for a different category. Rules will be voted on twice, each piece-type only once, during the first seven months. After seven votes, we have a variant.
Luotuoqi is intended to be playable with an ordinary board and pieces. I don't see a big deal with entries that differentiate one rook/knight/bishop from the other. It will be up to the polling to see if others have issues. A similar situation applies with rules like proposal 3, The Cube. It introduces something other than the basic 32 pieces and a board. Only the voting will tell if this places the rule beyond the pale.
A xebec is a small three-masted ship with both square and triangular sails. One of my dictionaries suggests derivation from Arabic via French chebec. I don't know if the usage is archaic or inappropriate, but I have seen 'Oberstecher' equated to Overtaker in descriptions of an old German card game (the name of the three of trumps in Karnõffel). As for the Dragon and Murray Lion, I don't know if either has a customary German name, but Hund strikes me as potentially appropriate for either move. I'd like to see the list when it is done. :)
Thanks for the information. A 'false friend' possibility is exactly what I was wondering about. Ah, well. It took me a while (and a fudge or two) to get an English list that fit.
'Tis fixed. :) Looks like a promising game, too.
I would certainly be willing to help judge under the conditions Hans describes (11 games in first round, 6 in finals, no judge evaluates any group including their own design at any time). It seems the best way to manage the rather large field. For the newly-opened 43 squares contest I have gone to a two-round preferential voting system, as the task is getting quite large for one or two judges. This contest was also originally slated for voting, so a jury of the public is a reasonable return to what Fergus originally conceived.
The key in answering Daniel's question is that the King may be left en prise--you don't have to move out of check. So any time a King is 'checked' but not 'mated' by traditional rules, that King could be lost by simply failing/forgetting/declining to protect it. There are some mild tactical potentials as well, since the capture of a vulnerable King is mandatory...
I'm as much in the dark as Ken is...I play a few games there (ItsYourTurn), and have had no trouble until this extended outage. If I hear anything reliable I'll mention it here. Glenn Overby Editor
My usefulness is limited, since I have two entries in my last contest before joining the editorial staff. But I'll judge other games as long as I am eligible.
I confirm Ken's statement...with the added note that those of us who play fast (28-hour) tournaments saw every game time out. :(
They're working hard on making everyone whole. This is a brief excerpt from a long explanatory message apparently sent to subscribers in general... ---begin excerpt--- Any timed-out tournament and non-tournament games since midnight Thursday will be restored automatically. Also, we will suspend tournament timeouts until midnight on Tuesday. If you are a current member, we will add 2 days to your membership. Please email [email protected] from the email address registered on your account, and we will take care of this for you. Please allow a few days for us to get to this request, since we are frantically trying to address all the issues relating to this downtime. ---end excerpt---
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Robert's idea makes sense. As each rule/piece is adopted, it supersedes any previously adopted proposal to the extent of any conflict. When it's all over I expect to edit the whole as a consistent rule set in any case (standardizing description formats, clarifying conflicts, etc.).
I think David's remarks are right on target...a sort of 'guided randomness' to balance the pools is probably in order. Certainly splitting the entries of multiple-entrants is reasonable in round one, and while I hadn't thought about board style or other factors his suggestions are rooted in good thought. Fergus's earlier comment about picking five from each initial pool instead of three is also a good observation.
Thirteen entrants (16 designs) have participated in prior contests. A rough familiarity factor, computed by adding the number of prior entries to the number of judge recognitions (prize or special mention), shows: Aikin 6, Neto 6, Quintanilla 5, Overby 4, Bell 3, Cazaux 3, McComb 3, Short 3, Thompson 3, Bruck 2, VanDeventer 2, Forsman 1, Greenwood 1. Messrs. Cazaux and Greenwood certainly are well-known for other contributions as well. Ten entrants (18 designs, including two joint-entries) have two games. These are Campos, Fourriere, Knappen, A Newton (1 joint), P Newton (2 joint), T Newton (1 joint), Overby, Overington, Quintanilla, Short.
I'm shaking my head in bemusement. Had the contest run by its original plan, before Life intervened for its organizer, we'd be less than three weeks from being done. (Albeit with many fewer entries, and that includes some good ones.) Now, with the prospect of two or even three rounds of judging by a pool still unknown, we may be looking at June. I suppose this is partly the price of success...33 entries is really quite a fine turnout for this contest. My suggestion is to slow the pace of suggestions, and let Hans work through what he wants to do.
Just posting a comment to let everyone know that I'm working up a ZRF for this one, so efforts don't get duplicated in the push to get ZRFs for the contest.
Two questions: 1. May a piece which promoted move out of a citadel, move back in on a later turn, and promote again? There are three possibilities for this: Firzan--Eagle--Queen Vizier--Lion--Warlord Guard--Champion--Supercav 2. Let's see if I understand promotion zones: A. Either citadel on the enemy side may be used by any piece which has a level to which to promote. B. A bishop may also promote on the square orthogonally adjacent to an enemy citadel. (In other words, a colourbound bishop still has two promotion spaces.) C. A pawn may also promote on b2(b7) or k2(k7). 3. The ZRF is barely started, but if you want to send me your email addy (mine is on the feedback page) I can send you a screenshot or two of the graphics I did for this. I went with an unchequered board to supplement your historical feel.
I have designs in Groups B and C, and am a credited playtester on a game in Group A. A simple playtest credit would not ordinarily keep me from judging, but given my multiple status as a new editor of the CVP and an entrant as well I am being extra-cautious. I have notified Hans that I cannot judge. But the system seems reasonable to me.
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