Comments by ChessShogi

This preset for Chu Seireigi shows the bug in action. It defines the Queen as a Metamachy Gryphon with an additional direction to show what happens with repeated non-final directions.

The relevant code is:

map n 0 1 s 0 -1 w -1 0 e 1 0; // Orthogonal directions
map nw -1 1 ne 1 1 sw -1 -1 se 1 -1; // Diagonal directions
def Queen logride #0 #1 (nw n) (nw w) (ne n) (ne e) (sw s) (sw w) (se s) (se e) (nw nw n);
def Queen-Range lograys #0 (nw n) (nw w) (ne n) (ne e) (sw s) (sw w) (se s) (se e) (nw nw n);

The last direction is not repeated indefinitely. It only repeats as many times as the direction before it is repeated.

If that is the case, then the logical definitions of the Griffon and Aanca should be as follows:

def G logride #0 #1 (nw (n)) (nw (w)) (ne (n)) (ne (e)) (sw (s)) (sw (w)) (se (s)) (se (e));

def GL lograys #0 (nw (n)) (nw (w)) (ne (n)) (ne (e)) (sw (s)) (sw (w)) (se (s)) (se (e));

def A logride #0 #1 (n (nw)) (w (nw)) (n (ne)) (e (ne)) (s (sw)) (w (sw)) (s (se)) (e (se));

def AL lograys #0 (n (nw)) (w (nw)) (n (ne)) (e (ne)) (s (sw)) (w (sw)) (s (se)) (e (se));

This is because of how logride's documentation says it should be used to describe turning riders, as shown below.

logride from to ...

...A turning rider needs directions in a nested pair of parentheses. The directions before the second pair of parentheses indicate the beginning of a turning rider's move, and what comes in the inner pair of parentheses indicates how the turning rider continues to repeat its move.

Okay, these pages have been published.

I think you missed Dai Seireigi's GC preset page. It's the same as Chu Seireigi's except it is adjusted for Dai Seireigi. Thanks for publishing the others though.

I do have one complaint about this game family: some pieces bear the names, but not the moves, of existing traditional Shogi pieces.

This is hardly a new precedent. Taikyoku Shogi does this with a ton of pieces that appear in smaller games. I simply used this same precedent when choosing the pieces for the Seireigi family, particularly when programming their Ludii files.

I think, at the least, the ones with altered moves should have new adjectives. (I'm fully willing to build new icons for them as needed.)

I must be very careful about this. Changing the name or move of a piece, especially while a game on GC is underway, can have a variety of unwanted effects (similar to when fixing that bug in Dai Seireigi broke our game forcing me to restart it). At some point it is better to maintain consistency than it is to change things to match the traditional Shogi roster.

Another variable to keep in mind is that the Seireigi family incorporates the drop rule. This rule demands that most pieces have a forward bias to their movements and that most pieces be relatively weak. This means I have to carefully consider what moves to give each piece so as not to destroy the delicate balance of power in each game.

That being said, renaming is not completely out of the realm of possibility for some pieces.

While all the stated options are technically implementable, these are severely limited by the piece graphics available to me from Eric's 1-kanji set and from Ludii's Extended Shogi set. Many of the pieces have the same names but different moves when compared to their Shogi counterparts. However, I will summarize my thoughts on your picks below.

• Flying Ox: While their are other options for this piece, none really go well with the theme of the games, which is a drops-playable version of their Shogi counterpart. Then there's also the problem of the Free Boar and what to change that to (this piece has fewer options and the same problem).
• Golden Bird and Heavenly Horse: The former's full Kanji name translates to "Oriental greenfinch," and the first Kanji in the latter's full Kanji name also translates to "winged." Under this logic, you could call them Golden Finch and Winged Horse, respectively, and it would only barely be cheating.
• Kirin, Phoenix, Lion, and Treacherous Fox: Unfortunately, these don't really have options for alternate names within the limits that I set for myself. For the latter, there is another fox piece that I could use (Dai Dai Shogi's Enchanted Fox), but it is displayed incorrectly in Ludii, thus making it unviable.

The Greenwade icons for the Strong Bear and Running Leopard may need to be adjusted depending on your preferences.

The Golden Finch and Winged Horse options seem good. I'd have to make new icons (I have a specific "finch" icon so finch-goldgeneral instead of bird-goldgeneral; and then, horse-wings instead of horse-angel), but I'd even call them new inventions. The Winged Horse could even use a simple pegasus icon (if not the name).

I'm not actually renaming the Golden Bird and Heavenly Horse, as there is simply no need to. I'm simply pointing out the fact that these options exist due to translations from their current Japanese names (金翅 kinshi and 天馬 temma, respectively).

I can get on the Strong Bear and Running Leopard icons over the weekend, if you don't go do them yourself. (The bear should be fine by itself, just removing the sword; the Running Leopard will be leopard-wind.) I can also do the Golden Finch and Winged Horse icons if you decide to go that route.

(The colors, in case you decide to do them yourself, are A9A9A9, 444444, 80FF80, and 008000.)

The only thing I plan on doing myself is uploading the updated images to the directory used by the Diagram. It makes much more sense to have you update the images themselves, seeing as you are the official author of these graphics.

That fen2 tool may be helpful in the future...

Thank you. However, it looks like I made some mistakes when defining the sets, which I have fixed in the updated set files below.

/membergraphics/MSchuseireigi/seireigi-set-files-v2.zip

Thank you. I double-checked the sets again, and everything is mapped properly.