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@ editors: This submission is now ready to be published, I think.

As are my recent rules pages submissions for Waffle Chess, WAD Chess, Gamma2 Chess, Champagne Chess and Parity Chess.

@ editors: Apologies, I forgot to add a Notes Section to 5 of the 6 recent submissions of mine. This particular submission is now ready to be published, I think (I expanded Introduction Section).

As are my recent rules pages submissions for Waffle Chess, WAD Chess, Gamma2 Chess, Champagne Chess and Parity Chess.

The author, Kevin Pacey, has updated this page.

To editors: just to be clear, I think this submission is ready.

Is this really a 3D game? There is no movement between levels. It's more like four independent Chess games going on at the same pace with the additional rule that the winner of the first game wins the whole game.

I thought that the boards affect each other in that a loss in one ends the whole game. Wasn't sure if that was a stretch, but has 3D been strictly defined by anyone anywhere? I didn't think it was. In wartime, a ship faces 3D threats from below, above and on the surface, if that helps.

Another way the boards can affect each other (in a 3D sort of way[!?]) in this CV is if a player is starting to have trouble on one or more boards, he may start to try desperate/risky measures on other board(s) if he is able to.

@ Fergus:

If you accept that this CV is 3D or at least pseudo-3D in some way, I could add a description of reasons why I think it is, in the Intro section, or in a Notes section (if I add one).

It's kind of like the same battle taking place at the same time in four parallel universes.

A link to a sub-wiki on parallel universes in science fiction (how relates to [technically incorrect but popular] use of the term dimensions):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_universes_in_fiction#:~:text=While%20technically%20incorrect%2C%20and%20looked,in%20modern%20prose%20science%20fiction.

I am not sure that the parallel with science fiction is really a good one. Parallel universes are not making an additional dimension. If nothing can move from one universe to another one, it is not a "dimension" at all. A dimension is something in which something may move in. Even in science fiction, Amber series for example, characters may move from one universe to another one.

Well, whatever and never mind if we can't agree with that. Here we are talking about chess, boardgames. 3D Chess has a meaning, it has an history. We can define it at large, for example qualifying Alice Chess of 3D Chess. That I will agree. But calling 3D Chess a simultaneous 4-board game without any interaction between the boards is exaggerating and misleading in my opinion.

I would advise a change of name.

A slight issue is there is already a published preset of mine by that name, and there has been at least one game played with it. I would need to redirect games to a renamed preset (by myself I guess) as well as a renamed Rules page (by an editor? I'm not sure I'm allowed to do it without checking). Something of a hassle that I'm not sure is worth it, especially when the definition of 3D Chess could still be not fully defined yet. Like I pointed out elsewhere, one or more boards can affect the strategy a player uses on one or more of the others, while the overall war is in progress.

Dear Kevin, indeed Overall Chess War would have been a better name to my eyes. I like very much that idea of playing simultaneous games. It could also be extended to, let's say or imagine, 4 different chess variants! That could be really fun. (Like chess/xiangqi/shogi/makruk, a World War; or Opulent/Eurasian/Shako/Expanded a Decimal War, or Sac/Butterfly/Hannibal/Frog , a Kevinian Challenge)

Concerning the technical difficulties of renaming (eventually, I just give an opinion, I have no authority, of course), let's see if Fergus answers. I have the feeling that the rules being not published yet, it should be possible either to rename it or erase it and copy the text into a new one with another title. And for the game that has been played for the moment, I believe that an editor can manually correct it, it doesn't look a big work. Well, I'm just guessing, maybe I don't realize.

Cheers

I used the term "parallel universes" deliberately, and using the correct meaning for the implicit use of "dimension"; I was suggesting that the third dimension in this case isn't a vertical one through space, but a fifth dimension that runs through the four universes and ties them together.

That said, the change in name would probably be a good idea (even though any suggestion would require resubmitting under the new name and deleting this one). Personally I'd go with something like "Tetra Parallel Chess."

Dear Kevin, indeed Overall Chess War would have been a better name to my eyes. I like very much that idea of playing simultaneous games. It could also be extended to, let's say or imagine, 4 different chess variants! That could be really fun. (Like chess/xiangqi/shogi/makruk, a World War; or Opulent/Eurasian/Shako/Expanded a Decimal War, or Sac/Butterfly/Hannibal/Frog , a Kevinian Challenge)

This sounds like something brilliant! Pacean parallels could become all the rage!

One could even go with "two front" (or more) games, where winning one board means you can use the pieces you still have from that game as drops on the other board.

PS: I even have a good set of 12x12 games (Desert Dust, Zwangkrieg, Rotary Chess, and Food Fight) that could be mashed together for a parallel game (albeit a particularly weird one).

I might suggest Parallel Chess War or Parallel War Chess. These suggest the idea of parallel dimensions without implying that there is a third dimension that movement can pass through.

@ Fergus:

If I go with 'Parallel Chess War', how to go about re-naming the rules page and the already published preset page? Do [we] need to delete any game log(s) that were played under the [old] name '3D Chess War' (as these may not be re-directed, even if I read again somewhere how to do that)?

A slight issue is there is already a published preset of mine by that name, and there has been at least one game played with it.

No, there is no record that anyone has ever played it. See here:

https://www.chessvariants.com/play/pbm/logs.php?gamecmp=eq&game=3D+Chess+War&age=0&stat=any&logcmp=eq&log=&tcmp=eq&tourney=&sort=age&userid=&submit=Submit

So, it wouldn't be difficult for you to replace it yourself.

I would need to redirect games to a renamed preset (by myself I guess) as well as a renamed Rules page (by an editor? I'm not sure I'm allowed to do it without checking).

You should just be able to replace the preset and the rules page, and I can delete the old ones.

That's odd. Joe and I played a game of 3D Chess War once (maybe it was a private log). [edit: yes, the log shows up when I use my user ID in the filter]

The 3D Chess War published PBM preset page has some tags (such as 'Groundbreaking') attached to it - not sure if they will go away on their own depending on what happens to that page.

The 3D Chess War published PBM preset page has some tags attached to it

I have now deleted them.

Okay, I can correct that when you're ready.

Parallel Chess War: very good name!

@ Fergus:

I now have a Settings File called Parallel Chess War. I still have my Settings File called 3D Chess War.