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Shogi. The Japanese form of Chess, in which players get to keep and replay captured pieces. (9x9, Cells: 81) (Recognized!)[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]I assume 'deadlocked piece' describes a piece dropped on a position it is impossible to ever move from, such as a Pawn or Lance on the last rank. If it described the situtation I described earlier, it would make stalemate itself illegal. Based on the text you copied here, it looks like only checkmate, and not stalemate, with a Pawn drop is illegal. Thanks.
Dear Fergus Duniho, About my game with Joao Bigodes. His King is captured, though the game continue! Isn't a bug somewhere??? Best regards, Paul Grosemans aka Centaure.
The bug was that I had transposed the x and y distances for checking for attacks from pieces that can move one space vertically forward. This allowed the King to move to a space attacked by a Pawn. This move was illegal, but the bug allowed it, and then the King got captured, which should have never happened. Anyway, the bug is now fixed, but because of the illegal move in your game, it is now broken.
I've implemented my own web interface for playing Shogi, if anybody wants to try it out:<br><br>
<a href='http://www.polymathgames.com'>www.polymathgames.com</a>
Recently on the Shogi-L (http://www.shogi.net/shogi-l/Archive/2005/Naug05-00.txt) there has been discussion of a freeware Shogi program called Bonanza. It is quite strong on even play. An extension has been created that allows playing handicap games. Its handicap play is perhaps not as strong as its even game play (I suspect this is because it does not have book moves for the handicaps, but that is a guess), but it will prove challenging for most. It certainly is for me. The link for Bonanza is: http://www.geocities.jp/bonanza_shogi/bonanza1.1_csawin.zip and for the extension: http://homepage3.nifty.com/floatinghome/csa_xt122.zip The listing from Shogi-L describes how to use the extension. Non-Japanese shogi players should truly appreciate this gift from Messers Masumoto and RaumNaum; I sure do!
Nate the Great wrote on Fri, Oct 28, 2005 09:16 PM UTC:Correction on the List of pieces: it's not JEWELED general but rather JADE general you're taling about. The same ideogram used is the same in Chinese. That's how I know.
That the Japanese chess-king is a jade general rather than a jeweled general is supported by the wikipedia at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shogi and this other website: http://www.crockford.com/chess/shogi.html . Murray seems to say that he depended for his information on nineteenth-century German translations of a few Japanese documents. This is rather a shock; it has been 'jeweled general' to us for so long!
Dear Nate, John. Jewelled general is in my opinion the most correct
traslation of shogi king.
The upper symbol 'kanji' in shogi king means jewel or ball. What kind of
jewel it is is defined by adding other symbols before it.
here is a link where you can look by yourself:
http://www.unicode.org/cgi-bin/GetUnihanData.pl?codepoint=7389
But what should shock you is that knight is not honorable horse but a 'cinnamon tree-horse' and lance is 'perfume-chariot'. names probably chosen by phonetic reasons rather than those of meaning
The name chosen for only phonetic reason should be written in kana!
Another interpretation of the King with the `gyoku` kanji might be `handsome general`. The one with the `oo` kanji could be `ruling general`. Of course, one way to avoid the problem of interpretation is to called the pieces by their Japanese names. So the King would be either `gyokushoo` or `ooshoo`(these names depend upon the side of the field). But we can still end up arguing about the proper phonetic spelling. I prefer that the terms Black and White should be `sente` and `gote`. But the introduction of Shogi to western culture began a long while back, and those individuals responsible for its early interpretation selected terms which they believed would make its assimilation easier. Right? Wrong? Maybe just expedient.
Shogi can now also be played online at Kurnik Online Games (http://www.kurnik.org/) with both traditional and Westernized pieces.
So 'Jade General' would require prefixing with a third character to specify that it was that kind of jewel, right? Thanks for that clarification, I'll mention it next time I update Generalised Generals.
How about creating a shogi variant using all the shogi pieces from every game and every piece on the Chess variant pages?! It will probably be about 40 by 40 to 45 by 45 spaces big! Please use all versions of a piece. Please give me credit for the idea . By Dane Rogers. Age 11 and 3/4
http://www.chessvariants.org/d.photo/taishogi/taipic.html
has some pictures of a (25x25) board and pieces for Tai Shogi. Dane, I think that is about the largest game anyone here will ever play.
Shogi, is of course, an excellent game. But here is what is interesting: In relation to another CV comment, seemingly unrelated (i.e., Fergus's comment to research a certain player to see he (Fergus) had no double-identity).. Well, I did research that player and found out he was in Tokyo and had a Shogi link which was quite interesting. He also mentioned a site where you could play Shogi in real-time. So, I went to http://www.kurnik.org and in minutes won my first 10 minute on-line speed Shogi game... quite fun. I was then crushing my opponent in a second game when a most terrible thing happened. I went to move the Rook, but then realized I could drop a pawn instead and win a Lance for the pawn. When I clicked to drop the pawn, my Rook moved to that square instead... so, instead of winning a Lance, I lost a Rook... oh what sorrow due to a mechanical issue. Anyway, it is fun to play real-time Shogi... and thanks to the rating system double-idntity issue, a real-time Shogi site was found.
I think the closest thing to that would be Taiykoku Shogi, with a 36x36 Board and 100+ types of pieces. There's probaly someone around here who's finished a game of the flash version.
Thanks for the replies David and Elijah. If you want a game of taikyoku shogi, you can find it in here. http://taikyokushogi.hp.infoseek.co.jp/taikyoku.swf and thats the larger version. http://taikyokushogi.hp.infoseek.co.jp/taikyoku.html
ahhhh shogi, love the drops
Shogi Champ plays in chess tournament.
Remarkable is the 38th place of FM Yoshiharu Habu (6/9). Why? Because Habu is not really a chess player, but the world's leading Shogi champion, who has taken a casual interest in chess.
Read the rest ...here
Yes, Mr. Habu is the best Shogi player right now, and he plays Chess 'as hobby'; he has said he has not time to study Chess theory more than the basic things, and he practices Chess very eventually. But he has obtained in the last Tournament his second 'Chess International Master norm'. One more and he is going to be IM, an IM that only plays the game once in a while, without dedication to it. Remarkable, but, undoubtedly, his Shogi experience helps a lot.
Perpetual check is forbidden, but how about other repeated situations?
No piece may be dropped to a square from which it will impossible to move forever, not only when dropped.
The board layout is as follows: +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ | l | n | s | g | k | g | s | n | l | +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ | | r | | | | | | b | | +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ | p | p | p | p | p | p | p | p | p | +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ | | | | | | | | | | +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ | | | | | | | | | | +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ | | | | | | | | | | +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ | | B | | | | | | R | | +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ | L | N | S | G | K | G | S | N | L | +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
Does anyone know '¤K¤è®Û'(Eight directions of honorable hose)? One player must remove his or her four pieces: rook, bishop, and both lances from the setup, and then his or her honorable horses called '¤K¤è®Û' can move as free as knight in Chess. If this player's own honorable horse is captured by the other player, the latter could't move it as knight. If the fomer captures the latter's horrable horse, it could move as knight. http://www.ne.jp/asahi/tetsu/toybox/kapitan/kp016.htm
My computer cannot read '¤K¤è®Û'. What is the transliteration and translation? This is of interest to me as an authentic Japanese name for the Knight is something that I should add to my Bishogi page. On the unequal-armies Shogi itself, my first instinct is that 2 Knights are no match for 6 pieces includig a Bishop and a Rook. Or is a Knight promoted to something really powerful?
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